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Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 12.58

Name and Form

Nāmarūpasutta

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
The Buddha alone, addressing the assembled mendicants
Form
The same four-movement, great-tree structure as SN 12.55, with name and form's conception in place of craving's growth
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — a genuine shift in what the tree simile is applied to, not just a new image

Why this discourse

Every discourse in this chapter so far has applied its simile to craving's growth or cessation. This discourse moves the point of application one full step earlier in the chain: rather than concentrating on gratification making craving grow, it says concentrating on gratification makes name and form be conceived (nāmarūpassa avakkanti hoti) — the same language of a being's "descent" into a new existence already used in SN 12.39. The great tree simile returns unchanged, but what it now illustrates isn't craving's persistence but the very entry point of a new existence taking shape, tying this chapter's central image directly back to the mechanics of rebirth examined earlier in this book.

Reading guide

The tree simile, redirected to a different target

The great tree's feeding mechanism — roots reaching down and sideways, drawing sap upward — is repeated here word for word from SN 12.55, but what it now illustrates has shifted from craving's growth to name and form's conception.

A phrase reaching back to SN 12.39

"Nāmarūpassa avakkanti" — name and form's descent — is the identical phrase already used in SN 12.39's account of what happens once consciousness is established and grows, tying this discourse directly to that earlier discourse's mechanics of rebirth.

One step earlier in the chain than this chapter's other similes

Where SN 12.52 through SN 12.57 all locate the tree simile's lesson at the level of craving, this discourse moves it upstream to name and form itself, the point at which a new existence's basic constituents first take shape.

Fetters framing carried over, not grasping

This discourse shares SN 12.53, SN 12.54, and SN 12.57's "things that tighten the fetters" framing rather than SN 12.52 and SN 12.55's "things that fuel grasping," a detail worth tracking alongside which simile is used, since the two variables don't always move together.

A tree simile applied to something more abstract than craving

Craving is at least experientially familiar as something that grows or fades; name and form's conception is a more abstract, structural event, and applying the same concrete tree image to it suggests the simile's real subject was always the general mechanism of conditioned arising, not craving specifically.

Key terms

nāmarūpassa avakkanti hoti — “name and form are conceived” — literally name and form's descent, the same phrase used in SN 12.39 for what follows consciousness's establishment.
nāmarūpapaccayā saḷāyatanaṁ — “name and form are requirements for the six sense fields” — where the familiar downstream chain resumes after this discourse's point of entry.
nāmarūpassa avakkanti na hoti — “name and form are not conceived” — the negated version opening the cessation half.
nāmarūpanirodhā saḷāyatananirodho — “when name and form cease, the six sense fields cease” — the reverse chain resuming from this discourse's point of entry.
saṁyojaniyesu… dhammesu — “things that tighten the fetters” — the framing shared with SN 12.53, SN 12.54, and SN 12.57, distinct from the grasping framing of the tree similes in SN 12.55 and SN 12.56.

The text

The discourse in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. “There are things that tighten the fetters. When you concentrate on the gratification provided by these things, name and form are conceived. Name and form are requirements for the six sense fields. … That is how this entire mass of suffering originates.

§2Suppose there was a great tree. And its roots going downwards and across all draw the sap upwards. Fed and fuelled by that, the great tree would stand for a long time. In the same way, there are things that tighten the fetters. When you concentrate on the gratification provided by these things, name and form are conceived. …

§3There are things that tighten the fetters. When you concentrate on the drawbacks of these things, name and form are not conceived. When name and form cease, the six sense fields cease. … That is how this entire mass of suffering ceases.

§4Suppose there was a great tree. Then a person comes along with a spade and basket. … In this way the great tree is cut off at the root, made like a palm stump, obliterated, and unable to arise in the future. In the same way, there are things that tighten the fetters. When you concentrate on the drawbacks of these things, name and form are not conceived. When name and form cease, the six sense fields cease. … That is how this entire mass of suffering ceases.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What does this discourse say happens when attention concentrates on gratification, unlike this chapter's earlier discourses?
Correct: A. The point of application shifted one step earlier in the chain.
Question 2 of 10
What earlier discourse in this saṃyutta uses the identical phrase "nāmarūpassa avakkanti"?
Correct: A. A direct textual link back to the Intention discourses' rebirth mechanics.
Question 3 of 10
Which tree simile does this discourse reuse?
Correct: A. The same feeding mechanism, redirected to a different target.
Question 4 of 10
What framing does this discourse use?
Correct: A. Matching SN 12.53, SN 12.54, and SN 12.57 rather than the grasping framing of the tree similes.
Question 5 of 10
What does applying the tree simile to name and form's conception suggest about the simile's real subject?
Correct: A. A more abstract, structural event illustrated by the same concrete image.
Question 6 of 10
Where does the downstream chain resume after this discourse's point of entry?
Correct: A. The familiar chain continuing from where this discourse enters it.
Question 7 of 10
How many movements structure this discourse?
Correct: A. The same four-part structure as SN 12.55 and SN 12.57.
Question 8 of 10
What determines whether name and form are conceived or not, in this discourse?
Correct: A. The same attention-driven lever as every other discourse in this chapter.
Question 9 of 10
Who is the sole speaker in this discourse?
Correct: A. No interlocutor or visiting figure appears.
Question 10 of 10
Where does the Buddha deliver this teaching?
Correct: A. The consistent setting shared with most of this chapter's discourses.
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Further reading

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