Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 14.13

In the Brick Hall

Giñjakāvasathasutta

Setting
Ñātika, in the brick house — the first discourse in this entire saṃyutta not set at Sāvatthī
Speakers
The Buddha and Venerable Kaccāna
Form
A brief general statement, a pointed question from Kaccāna, and an extended threefold answer
Length
~3 minutes to read
Northern parallel
A rough counterpart may exist in the Chinese Saṃyukta-āgama (T99), though this reading guide does not assert a specific matching sutra number
Difficulty
★★★☆☆ — assumes SN 14.11's distinct paññāyati phrasing as background

Why this discourse

For the first time in this entire saṃyutta, the setting shifts away from Sāvatthī: the Buddha is staying at Ñātika, in a brick house. There he states, in general, that an element gives rise to perception, view, and thought. Venerable Kaccāna presses him on something specific and troubling: the view, held by some, that people who are not actually fully awakened are in fact fully awakened Buddhas — using the same paṭicca paññāyati, “appears, dependent on,” phrasing SN 14.11 used for its seven elements. The Buddha's answer names ignorance as a mighty element, then generalizes into a threefold grading — inferior, middling, and superior — where a person's whole cluster of perception, view, thought, intention, speech, and even their rebirth all match the grade of the element behind them.

Reading guide

A setting that breaks a long pattern

Every discourse from SN 14.1 through 14.12 was set at Sāvatthī; this one alone moves to Ñātika's brick house, a small but real signal that this vagga isn't simply repeating Nānattavagga's formula-only structure.

Kaccāna names a real, troubling problem

Rather than an abstract example, Kaccāna asks about people who falsely believe themselves to be fully awakened Buddhas when they are not — a pointed question about religious overclaiming, not a hypothetical.

The same rare verb as SN 14.11, briefly

Kaccāna's question uses paṭicca paññāyati, “appears, dependent on,” the same distinctive phrasing SN 14.11 used and no other discourse in this vagga has used since — though the Buddha's actual answer shifts back to paṭicca uppajjati, “arises dependent on.”

Ignorance named as a "mighty" element

Before generalizing, the Buddha gives Kaccāna's specific question a specific answer: the false conviction of unearned Buddhahood traces to avijjādhātu, the element of ignorance, called mighty for producing something this consequential.

A whole cluster graded together, not one item at a time

The threefold answer that follows doesn't just grade perception or view alone; it grades eight distinct things at once — perception, view, thought, intention, aim, wish, the person themselves, and their speech — plus a ninth, their rebirth, all matching the same inferior, middling, or superior element.

Key terms

dhātuṁ paṭicca uppajjati saññā, diṭṭhi, vitakko — “an element gives rise to a perception, a view, and a thought” — the discourse's opening general claim, prompting Kaccāna's specific question.
avijjādhātu — “the element of ignorance” — named “mighty” as the source of the false conviction Kaccāna asks about.
hīna, majjhima, paṇīta — “inferior, middling, superior” — the threefold grading applied to elements and everything that follows from them.
hīnā … upapatti — “inferior … rebirth” — the discourse's closing claim for each grade, extending the classification all the way to where a person is reborn.
asammāsambuddhesu sammāsambuddhā — “among those not fully awakened, [the view that they are] fully awakened” — Kaccāna's specific example, a false claim to Buddhahood.

The text

The discourse in full. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At one time the Buddha was staying at Ñātika in the brick house. There the Buddha addressed the mendicants, “Mendicants!” “Venerable sir,” they replied. The Buddha said this:

§2“Mendicants, an element gives rise to a perception, a view, and a thought.” When he said this, Venerable Kaccāna said to the Buddha, “Sir, regarding those who are not fully awakened Buddhas, there is a view that they are in fact fully awakened Buddhas. Due to what does this view appear?”

§3“It’s a mighty thing, Kaccāna, the element of ignorance. An inferior element gives rise to inferior perception, inferior view, inferior thought, inferior intention, inferior aim, inferior wish, an inferior person, and inferior speech. One explains, teaches, asserts, establishes, clarifies, analyzes, and reveals the inferior. I say that their rebirth is inferior.

§4A middling element gives rise to middling perception, middling view, middling thought, middling intention, middling aim, middling wish, a middling person, and middling speech. One explains, teaches, asserts, establishes, clarifies, analyzes, and reveals the middling. I say that their rebirth is middling.

§5A superior element gives rise to superior perception, superior view, superior thought, superior intention, superior aim, superior wish, a superior person, and superior speech. One explains, teaches, asserts, establishes, clarifies, analyzes, and reveals the superior. I say that their rebirth is superior.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
What is distinctive about this discourse's setting?
Correct: A. Ñātika's brick house, breaking a pattern held since SN 14.1.
Question 2 of 10
What specific view does Venerable Kaccāna ask the Buddha about?
Correct: A. A specific, pointed example of religious overclaiming.
Question 3 of 10
What verb does Kaccāna's question share with SN 14.11, distinct from most of this vagga?
Correct: A. The same rare phrasing SN 14.11 used for its seven elements.
Question 4 of 10
What element does the Buddha name as the source of the false conviction Kaccāna asks about?
Correct: A. Ignorance, singled out for producing something this consequential.
Question 5 of 10
How many things does the threefold grading apply to at once, according to this discourse?
Correct: A. A whole cluster of qualities graded together, not one at a time.
Question 6 of 10
What determines whether someone's rebirth is inferior, middling, or superior, according to this discourse?
Correct: A. Rebirth matches the grade of the element that produced everything else.
Question 7 of 10
What phrase describes what one does with the inferior, middling, or superior, according to each section?
Correct: A. A person doesn't just have a grade; they actively communicate and embody it.
Question 8 of 10
Who asks the pointed question this discourse turns on?
Correct: A. Named specifically, unlike the unnamed questioner of SN 14.11.
Question 9 of 10
Where does this discourse take place?
Correct: A. The setting that breaks this saṃyutta's long Sāvatthī pattern.
Question 10 of 10
What numbering tag closes this discourse?
Correct: A. The third discourse of Dutiyavagga.
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