Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 22.125

With Kappa (2nd)

Dutiyakappasutta — Dhammakathikavagga

Setting
Sāvatthī
Speakers
Venerable Kappa questioning the Buddha directly
Form
The same elevenfold formula as SN 22.124, now answering a more advanced question
Length
Medium — matching SN 22.124's own length and structure
Northern parallel
Shares its structure with SN 22.124; the "peaceful and well freed" language recurs at SN 22.72 earlier in this book
Difficulty
Moderate — best read directly after SN 22.124

Why this discourse

Closes Dhammakathikavagga with Kappa's second, more advanced question: not merely how to prevent I-making and mine-making from arising, but how the heart becomes fully rid of them and reaches a state "peaceful and well freed" — language that recalls SN 22.72's own closing description earlier in this book.

Reading guide

A question that goes further than its companion

"How does one know and see so that the heart is rid of I-making, mine-making, and conceit... and going beyond discrimination, it's peaceful and well freed?" — where SN 22.124 asked how to prevent these things from arising, this discourse asks how the heart is actively freed of them and reaches a settled, peaceful condition.

"Going beyond discrimination" (vidhāsamatikkanta) recalls SN 22.49 earlier in this book, where the comparing conceits — "better than," "equal to," "worse than" — were analyzed at length; this discourse's closing phrase gathers that entire earlier analysis into a single compressed term.

The same formula, now marked as liberation rather than prevention

The Buddha's answer applies the identical elevenfold scope formula as SN 22.124, but this time explicitly "freed by not grasping having truly seen" — anupādā vimutto — rather than simply "truly sees," marking the outcome as accomplished liberation rather than an ongoing practice of prevention.

This small but precise verbal shift — from "one truly sees" (SN 22.124) to "one is freed by not grasping having truly seen" (SN 22.125) — carries the entire difference between the two discourses' questions in a single grammatical change.

"Peaceful and well freed" as a closing formula

"Santaṁ... suvimuttaṁ" ("peaceful... well freed") echoes the exact language closing SN 22.72 (With Surādha) earlier in this book — the same descriptive pair marking a discourse's own arrival at full liberation, now reused here to close Dhammakathikavagga on an identical note.

Closing Dhammakathikavagga

With Kappa's two questions complete, Dhammakathikavagga ends without any explicit colophon in the source text, having moved across its thirteen discourses from a basic definitional question (ignorance and knowledge) through titles, bondage, direct questioning, precise technical distinctions, and an extended five-stage dialogue, to close on this compressed, liberative formula — Uparipaṇṇāsaka's second vagga complete, with Avijjāvagga to follow.

Key terms

vidhāsamatikkanta — going beyond discrimination — recalling SN 22.49's earlier analysis of the comparing conceits, compressed here into a single term
anupādā vimutto — freed by not grasping — the precise verbal marker distinguishing this discourse's accomplished liberation from SN 22.124's ongoing seeing
santa — peaceful — the first half of this discourse's closing descriptive pair
suvimutta — well freed — the second half, echoing SN 22.72's own closing language earlier in this book
mānānusaya — the underlying tendency to conceit — carried over from SN 22.124's own question, now addressed by full liberation rather than mere prevention

The text

The complete discourse: Kappa's more advanced question, and the Buddha's answer marking accomplished liberation through the same elevenfold formula. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1At Sāvatthī. Seated to one side, Venerable Kappa said to the Buddha: “Sir, how does one know and see so that the heart is rid of I-making, mine-making, and conceit for this conscious body and externally for all signs; and going beyond discrimination, it’s peaceful and well freed?”

§2“Kappa, one is freed by not grasping having truly seen any kind of form at all—past, future, or present; internal or external; solid or subtle; inferior or superior; far or near: <em>all</em> form—with right understanding: ‘This is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.’ One is freed by not grasping having truly seen any kind of feeling …

§3perception … choices … consciousness at all—past, future, or present; internal or external; solid or subtle; inferior or superior; far or near: <em>all</em> consciousness—with right understanding: ‘This is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.’ That’s how to know and see so that the heart is rid of I-making, mine-making, and conceit for this conscious body and externally for all signs; and going beyond discrimination, it’s peaceful and well freed.”

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Self-check quiz

Ten questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 10
How does this discourse's question differ from SN 22.124's?
Correct: A. Moving from prevention to accomplished liberation.
Question 2 of 10
What phrase in this discourse recalls SN 22.49 earlier in this book?
Correct: A. Recalling SN 22.49's earlier analysis of the comparing conceits, compressed into a single term.
Question 3 of 10
What grammatical shift distinguishes this discourse's answer from SN 22.124's?
Correct: A. A single grammatical change marking accomplished liberation rather than ongoing practice.
Question 4 of 10
What earlier discourse does this discourse's closing "peaceful and well freed" echo?
Correct: A. The identical descriptive pair marking full liberation in both discourses.
Question 5 of 10
What formula does the Buddha's answer apply, as in SN 22.124?
Correct: A. The identical exhaustive-scope formula, now marking liberation rather than prevention.
Question 6 of 10
How does Dhammakathikavagga close, according to the source text?
Correct: A. No closing formula appears in the source text for this vagga.
Question 7 of 10
What vagga follows Dhammakathikavagga in Uparipaṇṇāsaka?
Correct: A. The third of Uparipaṇṇāsaka's five vaggas.
Question 8 of 10
How many discourses does Dhammakathikavagga contain in total?
Correct: A. SN 22.113 through SN 22.125, one more than the standard ten-discourse vagga.
Question 9 of 10
What does "anupādā vimutto" specifically mean?
Correct: A. Marking this discourse's answer as accomplished liberation rather than an ongoing practice.
Question 10 of 10
Where is this discourse set?
Correct: A. Matching SN 22.124's own setting.
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