Saṃyutta Nikāya · Discourse 56.39

Indra's Pillar

Indakhīlasutta — Sīsapāvanavagga

Setting
Not given — continuing directly from SN 56.38's own setting
Speaker
The Buddha, addressing the mendicants directly
Form
Two paired similes, each illustrating a contrasted state of understanding
Length
1–2 minutes to read
Northern parallel
No individual parallel confirmed by this project's own check
Significance
★★★★ — the ninth of ten discourses, its own two similes sharing this vagga's own recurring immovable-pillar image, which SN 56.40 will echo once more to close the vagga

Why this discourse

Confirmed by direct reading, this discourse contrasts two kinds of ascetics and brahmins: those who do not truly understand the four truths gaze up hopefully at another's face, as unsettled as a light cotton tuft blown randomly by any wind; those who do truly understand never look to another for confirmation, as unmoved as a deeply embedded iron pillar or Indra's pillar, unshaken by storms from any direction.

Reading guide

Dependence on others versus settled confidence

This project's own reading: the discourse's own contrast is social as much as epistemic — those lacking understanding are described looking to another's face for reassurance (“surely this worthy one knows and sees”), while those who understand need no such external confirmation at all.

A pillar-image this vagga will use again

This project's own direct comparison: the deeply embedded, storm-unshaken pillar used here to illustrate settled understanding is the same image this vagga's own closing discourse, SN 56.40, will use once more — there applied specifically to withstanding a rival debater's own challenge rather than to inner confidence generally.

Key terms

aññassa samaṇassa vā brāhmaṇassa vā mukhaṁ ullokenti — “they gaze up at the face of another ascetic or brahmin” — the dependent posture of those lacking understanding
tūlapicu vā kappāsapicu vā lahuko vātūpādāno — “a light tuft of cotton-wool or kapok...taken up by the wind” — the first simile's own image of instability
ayokhīlo vā indakhīlo vā gambhīranemo sunikhāto acalo asampakampī — “an iron pillar or an Indra's pillar with deep foundations, firmly embedded, imperturbable and unshakable” — the second simile's own image of settled stability
adiṭṭhattā...sudiṭṭhattā, bhikkhave, catunnaṁ ariyasaccānaṁ — “because they haven't [have clearly] seen the four noble truths” — this discourse's own paired cause for each contrasted state
navamaṁ — “the ninth” — this discourse's own root text confirming its own position directly, read rather than assumed

The text

Every genuinely translated fragment given in the consulted English source, which itself preserves the elision across the repeated four-truths formula. Translation: Bhikkhu Sujato (CC0, SuttaCentral).

§1“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path. They gaze up at the face of another ascetic or brahmin, thinking: ‘Surely this worthy one knows and sees.’

§2Suppose there was a light tuft of cotton-wool or kapok which was taken up by the wind and landed on level ground. The east wind wafts it west; the west wind wafts it east; the north wind wafts it south; and the south wind wafts it north. Why is that? It’s because the tuft of cotton-wool is so light. In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path. They gaze up at the face of another ascetic or brahmin, thinking: ‘Surely this worthy one knows and sees.’ Why is that? It’s because they haven’t seen the four noble truths.

§3There are ascetics and brahmins who truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path. They don’t gaze up at the face of another ascetic or brahmin, thinking: ‘Surely this worthy one knows and sees.’

§4Suppose there was an iron pillar or an Indra’s pillar with deep foundations, firmly embedded, imperturbable and unshakable. Even if violent storms were to blow up out of the east, the west, the north, and the south, they couldn’t make it shake or rock or tremble. Why is that? It’s because that Indra’s pillar is firmly embedded, with deep foundations. In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path. They don’t gaze up at the face of another ascetic or brahmin, thinking: ‘Surely this worthy one knows and sees.’ Why is that? It’s because they have clearly seen the four noble truths. What four? The noble truths of suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path.

§5That’s why you should practice meditation …”

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Self-check quiz

3 questions. Click an answer to see immediate feedback. No score is recorded — this is for your own checking.

Question 1 of 3
What contrast does this discourse draw between those who understand and those who don't, per this project's own reading?
Correct: A. This project's own reading of a contrast that is social as much as epistemic.
Question 2 of 3
What image does this discourse share with SN 56.40, this vagga's own closing discourse, per this project's own direct comparison?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct comparison — a recurring pillar image applied to two related but distinct situations.
Question 3 of 3
What position does this discourse occupy in this vagga's own ten-discourse sequence?
Correct: A. Confirmed by direct reading of the root text's own closing marker "Navamaṁ" ("ninth").
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