Sound, Fire, and the Measure That Measures Itself
The refutation of non-Buddhist self-nature claims continues, turning first to the Sāṃkhya view that sound is an eternal substance, then to why fire cannot exist apart from the firewood that fuels it, and finally to a searching analysis of perception itself — of what it could even mean for a "measuring subject" and a "measured object" to each possess their own fixed self-nature, tested against the puzzle of how a lamp illuminates a pot without ever illuminating itself.
Sound Has No Self-Nature Either
復次破僧佉義應知。內曰:汝義云聲有自性,與自性不異故者。是義不然。何以故?若聲有自性,則聲應為耳本故。若說聲是耳、耳即是聲;可說自性即聲、聲即自性。若不許耳即是聲者,亦不許汝聲即自性。若汝說聲是所聞、耳不爾者。是義不然。何以故?汝聲與耳為一、為異?若汝說聲是所聞與耳異者,已所聞故,與自性亦異。若說聲與耳不異者,何故不說聲能聞耳?若汝說德如耳者。是亦不然。何以故?若聲滅時,耳應俱滅,聲耳是一故。如耳聲一物不成,例餘成不成亦爾。故知諸法決無自性,悉皆是空。
若汝說證量云何成者。是義不然。何以故?今我立證量顯了二空,諸法空故,自性不可得。如見幻事幻物者證量,所見不如實有。諸法亦爾,不如所見而有所見,由體不實故不有,由證量故不無;由體無故空義得成,以證量故假有不失。
Next, the refutation of the Sāṃkhya should be understood. Insider: "Your position holds that sound possesses self-nature, since sound is not different from its own self-nature — but this does not hold. Why? If sound possessed self-nature, sound would have to be identical with the very basis of hearing itself: one would have to say that sound is the ear, and the ear is sound — only then could one say self-nature is sound and sound is self-nature. If you do not grant that the ear is identical with sound, then neither can you grant that sound is identical with its self-nature. If you say instead that sound is what is heard, while the ear is not identical with what is heard — this does not hold either. Why? Is your 'sound' one with the ear, or different from it? If sound, as what is heard, is different from the ear, then, being already something heard, it is likewise different from self-nature. If sound is not different from the ear, then why do you not also say that sound can hear the ear? If you say sound is a quality analogous to the ear — this too does not hold. Why? Because the ear too should perish when sound perishes, given that sound and ear are supposedly one and the same. Since even ear and sound cannot be established as a single thing, the same reasoning applies to every other case you might propose. Hence we know that dharmas decisively have no self-nature, and are, every one, empty."
"If you ask how, on this view, direct perception itself can be accounted for — this poses no difficulty. Why? What I establish here is that direct perception itself reveals the twofold emptiness: because dharmas are empty, self-nature cannot be found. It is like the direct perception involved in seeing a conjured illusion — what is seen there is not real as it appears. Dharmas are exactly the same: they are seen, yet not as they are seen to be. Because their essence is unreal, they do not truly exist; yet because they are directly perceived, they are not simply non-existent either. Because their essence is empty, the truth of emptiness is established; and because they are directly perceived, their status as conventionally existing is not lost."
Fire Depends on Firewood
復次一切諸法無有自性。何以故?依因緣生故。譬如火依他而生,離樵即不可見,亦如螢火。若火有自性,則應離樵空中自燃。若自燃有,則應離於燃具,為更生事則無有用,火成無事,一切諸水所不能滅。若汝說有自性故是故可滅。若無自性,如幻化火無有實性,無對治故水不能滅者。是義不然。何以故?責汝此火為本有性、為是無性?若本有性者,末亦是有。本末既有則應是常,不應可滅。復次自性各各自不同,可相壞故。譬如作事,後作事成,前事則壞,如火為水所滅。若一切法各有自性,何能相滅?若汝說若無自性,則火與樵不得異者。是義不然。何以故?多有過失,能所不異故。若一不異者,有何能所?火樵二物亦可說言:樵為能照、火為所照。若不爾者,則汝義本立一不成。
外曰:若汝說火離一異者,云何說火從因緣生耶?內曰:如樵中色等五塵,是時不成樵,即於一時並成熱性故。四大四微等八物皆不一不異,若言冷熱等八物一異者,是義不然。何以故?若是一者,冷應至熱,即墮常見。若言異者,簡空而生,即是斷見,緣冷生熱。故若異者應有八火,火若有八,一火不生,並如前說。是故諸法悉依緣生。何以故?相續、不度故,相續故不斷、不度故不常、以是義故,斷常見滅;不一不異,隨世間故亦說一異。
Furthermore, no dharma whatsoever possesses self-nature. Why? Because all arise dependent on causes and conditions. Fire, for instance, arises dependent on something else — apart from firewood it cannot be seen, and the same is true even of a firefly's glow. If fire possessed self-nature, it should be able to burn of itself, in empty space, apart from any firewood. If it could burn of itself, it should be independent of any fuel — in which case its further arising would serve no purpose, and fire, having no dependent function at all, could then never be extinguished by any water. If you say it can nonetheless be extinguished precisely because it has self-nature — while, if it had no self-nature, it would be like a conjured, illusory fire with no real nature, and, having no real antidote, water could not extinguish it — this does not hold. Why? I ask you this: is this fire's nature originally existent, or originally non-existent? If originally existent, then it must remain existent at the end as well; and if existent both at the beginning and the end, it should be permanent, and should never be extinguishable at all. Furthermore, if things possessed their own distinct self-natures, they could then mutually destroy one another — as when one act, once accomplished, destroys the prior act, as fire is extinguished by water. But if every dharma possessed its own independent self-nature, how could any of them destroy one another at all? If you say that, absent self-nature, fire and firewood could not be told apart — this does not hold either. Why? This claim carries many faults, since it fails to distinguish agent from object. If they are one and not different, what agent and object could there even be? Fire and firewood can indeed be spoken of as agent and object — the wood as that which is illuminated, the fire as that which illuminates. If this were not so, your own thesis of "oneness" could not be established in the first place.
Outsider: "If you say fire is neither one with nor different from firewood, then how can you still say fire arises dependent on causes and conditions?" Insider: "Just as the five sense-qualities of form and the rest within the firewood, at a given moment, no longer constitute 'firewood,' but instead, all at once, constitute the nature of heat. The eight substances — the four great elements and the four subtle elements — are, in every case, neither one nor different. If you say the eight substances, cold and hot and the rest, are either identical or different — this does not hold. Why? If identical, then the coldness of the wood should itself become the heat of the fire, which falls into the view of permanence. If you say they are different, then the heat would arise apart from and unrelated to the cold, which falls into the view of annihilation — yet in fact heat does arise dependent on cold. So, if they were simply different, there would have to be eight separate fires, one for each of the eight substances; and if fire were eightfold in this way, then no single, unified fire could ever arise, as explained above. Therefore all dharmas arise entirely dependent on conditions. Why? Because of continuity without permanence: because of continuity, there is no utter discontinuity, and because there is no permanence, there is no fixed, unchanging eternity. For this reason, the views of both annihilation and permanence are dispelled; being neither one nor different, 'oneness' and 'difference' are spoken of only in accordance with worldly convention."
The Measuring Subject and the Measured Object
復次若汝說能量所量二法成就,所以諸法各有自性故不空者。是義不然。何以故?量從自生故。不緣所量境而能量智自成者,無有是處。既無所量,能量之名對何而立?則量何所量耶?若汝說由觀所量故得成能量者。是義不然。何以故?若前境未有,即量何所緣?所量者是所緣境,能量者是能緣智。若所量已成,能量何用?所本由能,故得所名。若能量未有已成所量,則能量無用。若所量不關能量自得成者,有何能所?若汝說能量所量更互相成,是二各有自性而更互相合故,一名能量一名所量者。是義不然。何以故?若未相對時兩法已成而後時得名者,有四過失:一者相對無用。何以故?一切諸法未被緣時已成所量。智亦如是,未能緣時已成能量。既自性已成,何用相對?二者為何事未足復須相對?若為立名須相對者,體既已立,何故無名?若汝謂體本自性是有,但未相對故未有名者。是義不可。既未有名,云何有體?三者所量前成、能量後成者。若所量已成故得所量,能量未成復何所對而名所量?四者若能所俱時成者,則能所義壞。如牛角並生,則無能所。既前後俱時求覓自性皆不可得,故知諸法悉空。
復次若汝說,譬如燈為能照、瓶為所照,燈瓶二物本性是有,但相對時名能所照,故量義得成者。是義不然。何以故?燈譬未成故。與量不相似,豈得為譬耶?若汝說云何未成者。燈中無暗故,故不照自體。若照自體,體是所照。如瓶等譬,瓶既須別燈來照,燈亦應更有別燈照之,此則照照無窮過故。而不然者,汝謂證量相似故取燈為譬者,我明不相似故不得為譬。何以故?燈但照他,決不照自。若體有暗,可須自他來照;體既無暗,何勞自他照耶?不如瓶等物,體暗不自顯,故須燈照。若燈復須照,則應更有別燈來照。而不爾者,定知燈但為能照,非是所照。量即不爾,是能是所。能緣前境名為能量,即自智緣;及為他智緣,故名所量。即自緣者,如眼識為證量,直對前色,不能分別作是青意。若作是青意解,即是意識,是則二心俱起。眼識取色,不能自取。意識分別青黃,即是取。眼識不能取,自見色境故。但分別眼識所得者即是所量,分別眼識即是能量。是故證量由他分別故得成立。燈則不爾,但是能照,非是所照,不由他照故得成立。以是因緣,不得舉此譬於證量。
若燈能自照,不更須別燈照者,瓶等亦應自照,不更須別燈來照。若燈體暗故應照自體,而不須別燈照者,瓶亦應爾,瓶體有暗則應自照自體,亦不勞別燈來照。瓶應自照故,是則瓶燈一種俱應自照並不由他,則瓶與燈復有何異?若燈不應照者,云何能照自體?若體無暗不須照者,復何勞照?若照自體者,則有二失:一者體應有暗故須照者,此則與瓶為一,瓶有暗故。既不能自照,燈亦有暗,云何能照?二者能所照一,既是一體,竟誰為能所照耶?汝燈譬既不成,證量義亦壞。
Furthermore, if you say that the measuring subject and the measured object are two things each independently established, and that dharmas therefore each possess their own self-nature and are not empty — this does not hold. Why? Because the measure arises only relative to its object — there is no such thing as a measuring cognition establishing itself without depending on the object measured. And if there were no object measured, on what could the very name "measuring subject" be based — what, then, would the measure be measuring? If you say the measuring subject is established precisely by observing the object measured — this does not hold either. Why? If the object did not previously exist, what would the measure take as its condition? "The measured" refers to the object that is the condition; "the measuring" refers to the cognition that takes the condition. If the object measured is already established, what further use is there for a measuring subject? Only because the object depends on the subject does it receive the name "object" at all. If the measuring subject did not yet exist while the object measured were already established, the measuring subject would serve no purpose. And if the object measured could be established entirely independent of any measuring subject, what agent and object would there even be? If you say the measuring subject and the measured object mutually establish one another — that these two, each already possessing its own self-nature, come together and are thereby named, one "the measuring" and the other "the measured" — this does not hold either. Why? If the two things were already established prior to being brought into relation, and only afterward received their names, four faults follow: first, being brought into relation would serve no purpose — for all dharmas, before any condition takes hold of them, would already be "the measured," and cognition, likewise, before it takes any condition, would already be "the measuring." Since their self-nature is already established, what use would there be for relating them at all? Second, what, then, would still be lacking, requiring them to be related? If it is only the name that requires the relating, then, their essence already being established, why should they lack a name beforehand? If you say their essence inherently exists but simply lacks a name until related, this cannot be — lacking a name, how could their essence as such-and-such exist at all? Third, if the object measured is established first and the measuring subject established afterward — if the object measured is already established, thereby becoming "the measured," what would the measuring subject, not yet established, be related to, that it should be called "the measured"? Fourth, if the measuring subject and the object measured are established simultaneously, then the very sense of "subject" and "object" collapses, as when two horns of an ox grow forth together and there is no priority of one over the other. Since, whether examined as prior, as subsequent, or as simultaneous, self-nature can nowhere be found, we know that all dharmas are entirely empty.
Furthermore, if you say — just as a lamp is that which illuminates and a pot is that which is illuminated, the lamp and the pot each originally existing in their own right, and only when brought into relation are they respectively named "illuminator" and "illuminated" — that the sense of measure is thereby established: this does not hold. Why? Because the lamp analogy itself is not established — it is not even analogous to the case of measure, so how could it serve as an analogy at all? You ask how it is not established? A lamp contains no darkness within itself, and therefore does not illuminate its own substance. But if it did require illumination in order for its own substance to be revealed, then, just as a pot needs a separate lamp to illuminate it, the lamp itself would need yet another separate lamp to illuminate it — and this leads to the fault of illumination requiring illumination without end. Since this is not the case, the disanalogy stands: you take the lamp as an analogy because you suppose it resembles direct perception, but I say precisely that it does not resemble it, and so cannot serve as an analogy. Why? Because a lamp illuminates only other things, and never itself. If a substance contained darkness, it might need illumination from itself or another; but since a lamp's own substance contains no darkness, what need would there be for it to be illuminated by itself or by another? It is unlike a pot and similar things, whose substance, being dark, cannot manifest itself, and so requires a lamp to illuminate it. If the lamp itself in turn required illumination, there would have to be yet another separate lamp to illuminate it. Since this is not so, we know for certain that a lamp is only ever an illuminator, never something illuminated. Direct perception, however, is not like this — it is both subject and object at once. That which takes hold of a prior object is called the "measuring subject," this being cognition taking its own object; and insofar as it in turn becomes the object taken by a further cognition, it is called the "measured object." As to taking its own object: the visual consciousness, functioning as direct perception, is set directly upon the form before it, but cannot itself discriminate and form the thought "this is blue." To form that thought is already the work of mental consciousness — in which case two minds arise together. Visual consciousness takes hold of form, but cannot take hold of itself; mental consciousness discriminates blue from yellow, and this discriminating is itself a further "taking hold." Visual consciousness cannot take hold of itself, since it only sees its own object, the visible form. Only what is thus discriminated and apprehended by a further discriminating consciousness is properly "the measured"; the discriminating consciousness itself is "the measuring subject." Direct perception, therefore, is established precisely because it is apprehended by another act of cognition. A lamp is not like this — it is only ever the illuminator, never the illuminated, and its status as illuminator is not established through being illuminated by anything else. For this reason, this analogy cannot properly be applied to direct perception.
If a lamp can illuminate itself without needing a further separate lamp, then a pot too should be able to illuminate itself without needing a separate lamp. If a lamp, its substance being dark, ought to illuminate its own substance without needing a separate lamp to illuminate it, then a pot should likewise be so — a pot's substance being dark, it too should illuminate its own substance, without troubling itself over a separate lamp. If a pot should illuminate itself, then lamp and pot alike should both illuminate themselves without depending on anything else — in which case what difference would remain between a pot and a lamp at all? If a lamp ought not to illuminate itself, since it contains no darkness, then how could it illuminate its own substance, as your analogy requires? If its substance contains no darkness and needs no illumination, then what need is there for illumination at all? And if it does illuminate its own substance, two faults follow: first, its substance would have to contain darkness in order to require illumination — in which case it becomes identical with the pot, which also has darkness; but if it cannot illuminate itself, and the lamp too has darkness, how could it illuminate anything? Second, if illuminator and illuminated are one and the same, being a single substance, then who, finally, would be the illuminator and who the illuminated? Since your lamp analogy cannot be established, the case for direct perception collapses along with it.
The lamp analogy this section dismantles is one of the oldest images in Indian epistemology for how a means of valid cognition could establish itself without an infinite regress — a lamp does not need a second lamp to reveal it, so perhaps direct perception does not need a second perception to validate it. The treatise's reply is characteristically precise: the analogy fails not because lamps and cognition are unrelated, but because they fail for opposite reasons. A lamp is only ever an illuminator because it has no darkness in it to require illumination — it stands entirely outside the subject/object relation it produces in other things. Direct perception, by contrast, is asked to be both illuminator and illuminated at once, self-aware in a way a lamp never needs to be. Two paragraphs later this same section will locate exactly where that mutual apprehension actually happens — not in a single, self-certifying flash of cognition, but in the handoff between visual consciousness, which merely takes hold of color, and the mental consciousness that discriminates it as "blue" and, in doing so, takes the prior visual cognition itself as its own object. Certainty about experience, on this account, is never simple: it is always one moment of mind reporting on another.
Atoms, Inference, and a Second Word on the Vaiśeṣika
又不但用一色為瓶而合八物為瓶者,唯見一色,云何得瓶?若見一色即是瓶者,唯色是瓶,故知證色不證於瓶。又色亦不可證。何以故?隣虛色不成就故。汝謂隣虛微塵常不可空故,聚眾多成塵,色義則爾者。為當就一塵中有六方不?若有六方,即成六分;若無六方,非謂為色。既有六分,即可分析;若有方無分,是則六塵共入一塵。無量諸塵並應如是,則無成大義。又如一塵,日光照時,為照一邊、為東西俱達?若唯照一邊,則有六分;若東西俱達,色則非有。故知方分不實,悉併是空。有何證見?既無有證量,比等諸量理當自失。又如自性離色等,諸塵不可得比,瓶亦如是。若汝云先須證見、後則比知,如先曾證見火與烟相應,有火比烟。後時見烟,雖不見火,而由於前曾見火故,比度前時知有火者。是義不然。何以故?汝謂由色等塵能比知自性。先來未見,云何由色等而得比知瓶亦如是知?先來未曾證見,云何見色能比知瓶?是則由證量故有比量,此義不成。證既不成,比譬聖言等量皆失。又有過失,因果無差別故,比智不成。若汝謂自性生五唯等,自性為因,五唯為果。因中已有果,果時亦有因,至五唯時自性終不失,五唯自性即並本有故,自性五唯其體則一。若爾,因果無差,云何說五唯能比知自性?此即自體以比自體,義何謂乎?
復次破鞞世師義應知。若汝謂瓶等與色等異者,云何得證?若離色等諸德是物可證者,應如石女有兒、用炎水浴、被龜毛衣、著兔角屣、戴空華鬘、入闥婆城、共化女戲是等亦應可證;若此不可證者,瓶等亦爾。色等既無,瓶云何有?如瓶,一切諸量亦皆不成,如是自性悉不可得,故知諸法一切皆空。
Furthermore, a pot is not made of a single color alone but of eight substances combined — yet we see only a single color, so how could a "pot" ever be apprehended? If seeing a single color were itself apprehending a pot, then color alone would be the pot — which shows that to perceive color is not to perceive a pot. And even color itself cannot be established as truly perceived. Why? Because the atom, the "neighbor of emptiness," cannot itself be established. You hold that atoms are permanent and can never be reduced to nothing, and that it is by their aggregation that a visible mass of color is formed — but does a single atom have six sides, or not? If it has six sides, it thereby has six parts; and if it has no six sides, it cannot properly be called a form at all. If it has six parts, it can then be further divided; and if it has sides yet no parts, then all six of its neighboring atoms would have to merge into this one single atom, and the same would have to hold for every atom without limit — in which case no large aggregate mass could ever be formed at all. Again, when sunlight strikes a single atom, does it illuminate only one side, or reach both east and west sides at once? If it illuminates only one side, the atom has parts; if it reaches both sides at once, then it cannot truly have extension at all. Hence we know that spatial parts are unreal, and are, every one, empty. What, then, could ever be directly perceived? And since there is no direct perception to begin with, inference and every other means of valid cognition built upon it must likewise collapse of themselves. Just as self-nature, apart from color and the rest, can never be inferred, so too a pot cannot be inferred. If you say that direct perception must first occur, and inference follows afterward — as one who has previously seen fire together with smoke can, on later seeing smoke alone without seeing fire, infer from that earlier perception that fire is present — this does not hold either. Why? You hold that it is by means of qualities such as color that self-nature is inferred. But if self-nature has never once been directly perceived beforehand, how could one, through color and the rest, infer a pot in just the same way as inferring fire from smoke? Since it has never been directly perceived to begin with, how could seeing color allow one to infer a pot at all? Inference, in other words, depends on direct perception having already occurred — and this cannot be established. Since direct perception cannot be established, inference, analogy, and reliable testimony — every means of valid cognition built upon it — likewise fail. There is a further fault as well: because cause and effect would have no distinguishing difference, inferential cognition itself cannot be established. If you hold that self-nature gives rise to the five subtle elements as its effect — self-nature being the cause, the five subtle elements the effect — then, since the effect already exists within the cause, and the cause remains present within the effect, self-nature is never truly lost even once the five subtle elements have arisen; the five subtle elements' own self-nature was, from the start, identical with it — so that the substance of self-nature and of the five subtle elements is, in the end, one and the same. But if cause and effect have no real difference at all, how could you claim that the five subtle elements allow one to infer self-nature? This would be nothing more than the substance inferring itself — what, then, would such an "inference" even mean?
Next, a further refutation of the Vaiśeṣika should be understood. If you hold that a pot is something different from its color and other qualities, how could such a thing ever be established by direct perception? If a substance apart from color and its other qualities could be directly perceived, then a barren woman's son, bathing in mirage-water, wearing a robe of tortoise-hair, putting on shoes made from a rabbit's horns, wearing a garland of sky-flowers, entering the city of the gandharvas, or sporting with a conjured woman ought likewise to be directly perceivable. And if these cannot be perceived, then a pot, apart from its qualities, cannot be either. Since color and the other qualities do not, in the end, establish it, how could a "pot" exist at all? As with the pot, so with every other means of valid cognition: none can be established, and self-nature, in every case, can nowhere be found. Hence we know that all dharmas, every one, are empty.
Part 4 Complete
This closes a dense stretch of the treatise's epistemological argument: sound, fire, the lamp, and the atom, each in turn shown to yield no fixed self-nature under analysis, and direct perception itself — the very ground non-Buddhist opponents kept appealing to as a last resort — shown to depend on the very dependent-origination it was meant to refute. Part 5 turns to the Sāṃkhya doctrine that the effect already pre-exists within its cause (satkāryavāda), and to a final, intricate debate over what makes memory possible at all, before the "Part Refuting Attachments" arrives, at last, at its own positive statement of dependent origination as the middle way between the extremes of fixed existence and fixed non-existence.
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