Fascicle 6 · 瑜伽師地論卷第六 · Continuing Directly from Fascicle 5

Sixteen Doctrines the Buddha Rejected

Fascicle 5 ended mid-topic, having just finished sound reasoning attention — not a natural stopping point, simply where the physical scroll divides. This page picks up exactly there: unsound reasoning attention, unpacked through five of sixteen non-Buddhist doctrines current in the Buddha's own India — effect existing within cause, manifestation through condition, past and future truly existing, the doctrine positing a self (refuted at greatest length of all, through Buddhism's classic fourfold test), and the doctrine positing permanence — each doctrine's claims, reasoning, and scriptural authority stated fairly before the treatise's own point-by-point refutation.

Translator: Ru-Yi Meditation Center Status: fascicle 6 complete Source: Taishō T30, no. 1579, fascicle 6 Commentary guide: Master Cháng Bǎi's lecture notes

1. Unsound Reasoning Attention Opens: Sixteen Doctrines Named

Continuing directly from fascicle 5's close, the treatise opens its fourth great lens on the three grounds: unsound reasoning attention, defined here not abstractly but through a roster of sixteen specific non-Buddhist doctrines actually current in the Buddha's own India — the treatise's most sustained engagement anywhere with rival philosophical and religious systems.

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復次,云何不如理作意施設建立?嗢柁南曰:執因中有果,顯了有去來,我常宿作因,自在等害法,邊無邊矯亂,計無因斷空,最勝淨吉祥,由十六異論。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, how is the establishment of unsound reasoning attention to be understood? A summary verse states: holding that effect exists within cause, manifestation, past and future truly existing, self, permanence, prior deeds as cause, sovereign lordship and the rest, harming as the true Dharma, having or lacking limits, evasive equivocation, positing no cause, annihilation, and emptiness, supremacy, purity, and auspiciousness — through sixteen divergent doctrines.

由十六種異論差別,顯不如理作意應知。何等十六?一、因中有果論,二、從緣顯了論,三、去來實有論,四、計我論,五、計常論,六、宿作因論,七、計自在等為作者論,八、害為正法論,九、有邊無邊論,十、不死矯亂論,十一、無因見論,十二、斷見論,十三、空見論,十四、妄計最勝論,十五、妄計清淨論,十六、妄計吉祥論。

It should be understood that unsound reasoning attention is made manifest through these sixteen distinct divergent doctrines. What are the sixteen? First, the doctrine that effect exists within cause; second, the doctrine of manifestation through condition; third, the doctrine that past and future truly exist; fourth, the doctrine positing a self; fifth, the doctrine positing permanence; sixth, the doctrine of prior deeds as cause; seventh, the doctrine positing sovereign lordship and the like as creator; eighth, the doctrine that harming is the true Dharma; ninth, the doctrine of having or lacking limits; tenth, the doctrine of evasive equivocation about the deathless; eleventh, the doctrine positing no cause; twelfth, the doctrine of annihilation; thirteenth, the doctrine of emptiness; fourteenth, the doctrine of false supremacy; fifteenth, the doctrine of false purity; sixteenth, the doctrine of false auspiciousness.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi previews the treatise's method for all sixteen: each will be named, its specific school or teacher identified, its scriptural or reasoned basis given fairly and in some detail, and only then refuted — a far more rigorous and historically grounded engagement with rival views than a mere list of errors. He notes that classical India's roughly ninety-five or ninety-six non-Buddhist schools, and the sixty-two speculative views catalogued in sources like the Brahmajāla Sūtra, all reduce in substance to these sixteen basic positions, making this fascicle's survey a genuine comparative-religion map of the philosophical landscape the Buddha's teaching arose within and against.

He flags the danger these doctrines pose precisely because they are not obviously foolish: many rest on real logical reasoning or real meditative experience, and without the Buddha's own insight to check them against, can seem entirely coherent on their own terms — which is exactly why unsound reasoning attention, rather than mere ignorance, is the treatise's chosen name for what is wrong with them. He previews the first, the doctrine that effect exists within cause, as belonging to the Sāṃkhya school's Vārṣagaṇya branch — the view that a sprout's rice-nature must already exist latent within its seed, since rice only ever grows from rice-seed and never from wheat, extended into an entire cosmology in which everything unfolds already-present from a single eternal, unchanging root-cause.

2. The First Doctrine in Full: Why the Vārṣagaṇya School Held That Effect Exists Within Cause

True to its promised method, the treatise first states the doctrine that effect pre-exists within cause fully and fairly, tracing it to a specific teacher and school, then gives the four reasoned arguments its holders actually offered — before beginning, in the next section, to dismantle it.

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因中有果論者,謂如有一,若沙門、若婆羅門,起如是見,立如是論:常常時、恆恆時,於諸因中具有果性。謂雨眾外道作如是計。

Ru-Yi Translation

The doctrine that effect exists within cause: there are certain renunciants or brahmins who hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that always, at every time without exception, effect exists as a property already within its cause. It is the Vārṣagaṇya school of non-Buddhist teachers that holds this position.

彼作是思:若從彼性此性得生,一切世間共知、共立彼為此因,非餘。又求果者,唯取此因,非餘。又即於彼,加功營構諸所求事,非餘。又若彼果,即從彼生,不從餘生。是故彼果因中已有。

They reason thus: if this effect-nature arises from that cause-nature, the whole world alike recognizes and establishes that cause-nature, and no other, as the cause of this effect. Further, one who seeks a given effect takes up only this cause, and no other. Further, it is on that very cause that effort and labor are actually applied in pursuit of the desired outcome, and on no other. Further, that effect arises specifically from that cause, and from no other. Therefore, that effect must already exist within its cause.

若不爾者,應立一切是一切因,為求一果應取一切,應於一切加功營構,應從一切一切果生。如是由施設故,求取故,所作決定故,生故,彼見因中常有果性。

Were it otherwise, then anything at all should be the cause of anything at all; seeking a single effect should require taking up every possible cause; effort should have to be applied to everything without distinction; and any effect at all should arise from anything at all. It is thus through convention, through seeking, through the fixed determinacy of effort, and through arising itself, that they hold effect to exist perpetually within cause.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi identifies these teachers as followers of Vārṣagaṇya, a leading disciple of the Sāṃkhya founder Kapila, and lays out their larger cosmology: an eternal, unchanging root-cause called prakṛti (self-nature) unfolds, in fixed sequence, into twenty-three further principles — intellect, ego-sense, the five subtle elements, the five gross elements, the five sense-faculties, the five action-faculties, and mind — all ultimately for the enjoyment of a twenty-fifth principle, puruṣa (the true self). Because rice sprouts only ever come from rice seed, never from wheat, they reasoned, rice-nature must already exist latent within the seed before it ever sprouts — the whole edifice of twenty-three unfolding principles is simply this same logic scaled up to the whole of reality. Liberation, on their view, comes only when this self, wearied by prakṛti's ceaseless, agitating transformations, achieves such profound revulsion toward them that prakṛti itself withdraws and stops producing the twenty-three principles at all.

He walks through their four supporting arguments as genuinely reasoned, not merely dogmatic: the whole world already agrees that rice-seed, and nothing else, is what people call the "cause" of rice; anyone actually wanting rice seeks out rice-seed specifically, not any other seed; the labor of cultivation is applied specifically to that seed, not scattered indiscriminately across every possible seed; and the effect specifically and only ever arises from that particular cause. Reversed, they argued, the absurdity is obvious — if effect were not already latent in its proper cause, anything could produce anything, seeking any single result would require gathering literally everything, effort would have to be spread everywhere at once, and every effect would spring from every cause indiscriminately, none of which matches how the world actually and reliably works. It is this reasoning, resting on real and carefully observed regularities, that the treatise takes seriously enough to refute point by point rather than simply dismiss.

3. The Refutation: A Cause Only Ever Needs a Condition to Produce Its Effect

The treatise now turns to demolish the doctrine with a classical dilemma: are cause and effect the same thing, or different things? Either answer, pressed carefully, collapses.

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應審問彼:汝何所欲?何者因相?何者果相?因果兩相為異不異?若無異相,便無因果二種決定。因果二種無差別故,因中有果,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

One should press them with this question: what, precisely, do you mean? What is the mark of a cause? What is the mark of an effect? Are these two marks, cause and effect, different from each other or not different? If they are not different, then there can be no fixed distinction between the two at all — cause and effect being simply identical, it makes no sense to speak of "effect existing within cause."

若有異相,汝意云何?因中果性為未生相?為已生相?若未生相,便於因中果猶未生,而說是有,不應道理。若已生相,即果體已生,復從因生,不應道理。是故因中非先有果;然要有因,待緣果生。

If they are different, then consider this: is the effect-nature within the cause already-arisen, or not-yet-arisen? If not-yet-arisen, then the effect has, within the cause, not yet come to be at all — to call it "existing" makes no sense. If already-arisen, then the effect's own substance has already come to be, and to then say it "arises again from the cause" equally makes no sense. Therefore, effect does not pre-exist within cause. Rather, there must be a cause, and, given a further condition, the effect then arises.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi walks through the dilemma as airtight on its own terms: press the Vārṣagaṇya position on whether cause and effect actually differ, and both horns fail. If they are not different — milk simply is yogurt, with no real distinction — then the very words "cause" and "effect" lose all meaning, since nothing is actually being produced from anything. If they are different, a second question immediately follows: within the cause, does that different effect-nature already exist in fully arisen form, or not yet? If not yet arisen, then it plainly does not yet exist, so calling it "already present" is simply false; if already arisen, then it is already a complete, existing thing in its own right, making the claim that it then "arises from" the cause equally incoherent — an already-existing thing cannot meaningfully arise a second time.

He reads the treatise's own positive conclusion as the genuinely Middle Way position, avoiding both extremes at once: effect is neither strictly identical to its cause nor strictly separate from it — milk and yogurt are related, in the sense that only milk (never water) can become yogurt, yet also distinct, since yogurt clearly has qualities milk lacks — and this relation is possible only because a cause, on its own, is never sufficient; it must always still wait upon a further condition (the yogurt-culture, the fermentation, the right length of time) before any effect actually appears. The Vārṣagaṇya error, in Cháng Bǎi's reading, was mistaking a real and rigid correlation between a specific cause and its specific effect for the effect's own hidden prior existence, when what that correlation actually shows is only that a cause reliably needs the right condition, never any condition whatsoever, to produce its own proper result.

4. Five Tests for Whether One Existing Thing Truly Contains Another, and the First Doctrine Closes

The treatise closes its refutation with a five-part practical test: whenever one already-existing thing genuinely contains another, five specific marks should be findable — marks conspicuously absent from the claim that effect already exists within cause.

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又有相法於有相法中,由五種相方可了知。一、於處所可得,如甕中水。二、於所依可得,如眼中眼識。三、即由自相可得,如因自體,不由比度。四、即由自作業可得。五、由因變異故,果成變異;或由緣變異故,果成變異。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, whenever one existing thing genuinely exists within another existing thing, this can be known through five marks. First, it can be found occupying a location, as water is found within a jar. Second, it can be found within its proper support, as eye-consciousness is found within the eye. Third, it can be found through its own characteristic, as a cause's own substance is found — not through mere inference. Fourth, it can be found through its own distinct function. Fifth, when the cause undergoes change, the effect correspondingly changes; or when the condition undergoes change, the effect correspondingly changes.

是故彼說常常時、恆恆時,因中有果,不應道理。由此因緣,彼所立論非如理說。

It is for this reason that their claim — that effect exists within cause always, at every time without exception — does not accord with reason. For this reason, the doctrine they establish is not a soundly reasoned teaching.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats these five marks as a practical checklist for testing any claim that one thing already, actually contains another — water genuinely inside a jar can be pointed to occupying real space within it; eye-consciousness genuinely depends on the eye as its specific physical support; a jar's own clay substance can be directly perceived as itself, not merely inferred; each thing has its own distinct, locatable function (water flows, clay holds firm); and change in the container or its conditions produces a matching, traceable change in what it holds. Effect supposedly hidden within cause, he notes, satisfies none of these: no one can point to rice-nature actually occupying space inside a seed, or perceive it directly the way one perceives water in a jar — its "presence" is asserted, never actually found, which is exactly what distinguishes the Vārṣagaṇya claim from an ordinary, verifiable case of real containment.

With the doctrine now refuted on both its logical structure (the same-or-different dilemma) and this practical evidentiary test, the treatise's first of sixteen non-Buddhist doctrines closes. Cháng Bǎi notes the broader stakes: getting causation wrong here is not a merely academic error, since the Vārṣagaṇya's eternal, unchanging prakṛti functions, in their system, exactly like a hidden permanent self — the same fundamental mistake, dressed in cosmological rather than personal terms, that the treatise will meet again and again across the fifteen doctrines still to come.

5. The Second Doctrine: Effects Are Manifested by Conditions, Not Produced by Them

The treatise turns to a close cousin of the first doctrine — held, tellingly, by the very same Sāṃkhya school together with grammarian Sound-theorists — which agrees that an effect already fully exists, but insists conditions only ever reveal it rather than actually generate it.

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從緣顯了論者,謂如有一,若沙門、若婆羅門,起如是見,立如是論:一切諸法,性本是有,從眾緣顯,不從緣生。謂即因中有果論者及聲相論者作如是計。

Ru-Yi Translation

The doctrine of manifestation through condition: there are certain renunciants or brahmins who hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that the nature of every phenomenon fundamentally already exists, and is merely made manifest by an assembly of conditions, rather than actually produced by them. It is the very same holders of the doctrine that effect exists within cause, together with the Sound-nature theorists, who hold this position.

彼如是思:果先是有,復從因生,不應道理。然非不用功為成於果,彼復何緣而作功用?豈非唯為顯了果耶?彼作如是妄分別已,立顯了論。

They reason thus: if an effect already exists beforehand, then to say it again "arises from" a cause makes no sense. Yet it is not the case that no effort at all is needed to bring about the effect — so for what reason, then, is effort actually exerted? Is it not solely in order to make the effect manifest? Having reasoned in this mistaken way, they establish the doctrine of manifestation.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this as a patch applied to the first doctrine's most obvious weakness: if rice-nature is already fully present in the seed, why does a farmer still need to plant, water, and tend it? Rather than abandon the claim that effect pre-exists, its holders instead redefine what conditions actually do — not creating the effect, only clearing away whatever was hiding it from view, the way removing darkness from a room does not create the table that was there all along, only reveals it. He notes the Sound-nature theorists (grammarian and Mīmāṃsā theorists of eternal, uncreated speech) as natural allies here: on their view, a spoken word's sound-essence is eternal and uncaused, and the act of speaking merely manifests, rather than produces, a reality that was already there before anyone opened their mouth.

6. Three Dilemmas That Dismantle "Manifestation Without Production"

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應當問彼:汝何所欲?為無障緣而有障礙?為有障緣耶?若無障緣者,無障礙緣而有障礙,不應道理。若有障緣者,屬果之因何故不障?同是有故,不應道理。譬如黑闇障甕中水,亦能障甕。若言障緣亦障因者,亦應顯因,俱被障故。而言但顯因中先有果性,不顯因者,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

One should press them thus: what, precisely, do you mean — is there no obstructing condition at all, yet an obstruction is present? Or is there an obstructing condition? If there is no obstructing condition, then to say an obstruction is present with no obstructing condition present makes no sense. If there is an obstructing condition, then why does it not equally obstruct the cause to which the effect belongs, since both equally exist? This makes no sense — just as darkness obstructing the water within a jar equally obstructs the jar itself. And if you say the obstructing condition obstructs the cause as well, then the cause too should be manifested once it is removed, since both were equally obstructed — yet to say only the effect already present within the cause is manifested, and not the cause, makes no sense either.

復應問彼:為有性是障緣?為果性耶?若有性是障緣者,是即有性常不顯了,不應道理。因亦是有,何不為障?若言果性是障緣者,是則一法亦因亦果,如芽是種子果,是莖等因,是即一法亦顯不顯,不應道理。

One should further press them: is bare existence itself the obstructing condition, or is it specifically the nature of being an effect? If bare existence is the obstructing condition, then existence itself should perpetually remain unmanifested — which makes no sense, since the cause too exists, and yet is never said to be obstructed. If the nature of being an effect is the obstructing condition, then consider that one and the same phenomenon is often both an effect and a cause at once — a sprout is the effect of its seed, yet the cause of the stalk that follows it — so that one and the same thing would have to be simultaneously manifested and unmanifested, which makes no sense.

又今問汝,隨汝意答。本法與顯為異不異?若不異者,法應常顯,顯已復顯,不應道理。若言異者,彼顯為無因耶?為有因耶?若言無因,無因而顯,不應道理。若有因者,果性可顯,非是因性,以不顯因能顯於果,不應道理。

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: is the original phenomenon identical to, or different from, its manifestation? If not different, then the phenomenon should always already be manifest — to then speak of it being "manifested" again makes no sense. If different, then is that manifestation itself uncaused, or caused? If uncaused, then an uncaused manifestation makes no sense. If caused, then it is only the effect's own nature that becomes manifest, never the cause's — and manifesting an effect without ever manifesting its cause makes no sense either.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi walks through all three dilemmas as variations on a single relentless pressure test. The first asks what actually removes the "obstruction" hiding the effect: with no obstructing condition at all, an obstruction should not be there to begin with; with one present, it should logically obstruct the cause just as much as the effect — darkness hiding water in a jar obviously hides the jar too — yet the doctrine's holders only ever claim the effect, never the cause, becomes visible once conditions are supplied, an asymmetry they never actually explain.

The second dilemma asks what kind of thing is doing the obstructing: bare existence itself, or specifically the property of being an effect. If existence itself obstructs, nothing could ever become visible, since everything that exists would be equally hidden forever — including causes, which the doctrine's own holders admit are visible. If instead it is specifically "being an effect" that obstructs, the scheme collapses on ordinary examples: a sprout is the effect of its seed and, at the very same time, the cause of the stalk still to come — is it, at that single moment, hidden or visible? The theory gives no coherent answer.

The third dilemma finally asks about the relationship between the hidden "original" thing and its later manifestation: if they are simply the same thing, it should have been visible all along, making "manifestation" an empty word; if they are different, that manifestation is itself either uncaused (absurd, since nothing uncaused ever appears) or caused — and if caused, the same asymmetry recurs, since the theory only ever explains the effect becoming visible, never the cause that supposedly obstructed it in the first place. Cháng Bǎi notes all three dilemmas converge on the same diagnosis: the doctrine invented "manifestation" specifically to rescue "effect already exists" from its own contradiction, but manifestation turns out to raise exactly the same unanswerable questions as production did.

7. Why "Unseen" Never Means "Nonexistent," and the Sound-Theorists Fall the Same Way

Having dismantled the doctrine's logic, the treatise states its own positive teaching — a genuinely useful epistemological principle reaching well beyond this one debate — before applying the identical refutation to the grammarian Sound-theorists and closing out the doctrine entirely.

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是故汝言:若法性無,是即無相,若法性有,是即有相;性若是無,不可顯了,性若是有,方可顯了者;不應道理。我今當說:雖復是有,不可取相。謂或有遠故,雖有而不可取。又由四種障因障故,而不可取。復由極微細故,而不可取。或由心散亂故,而不可取。或由根損壞故,而不可取。或由未得彼相應智故,而不可取。

Ru-Yi Translation

Therefore, your claim — that if a phenomenon's nature is absent, it has no characteristic, and if its nature is present, it has a characteristic; that if its nature is absent, it cannot be manifested, and if its nature is present, only then can it be manifested — does not accord with reason. I shall now state the matter correctly: a thing may indeed exist, and yet its characteristic still not be apprehensible. This may be because it is too distant, and so, though existing, is not apprehensible. It may be because it is obstructed by one of four kinds of obstruction. It may be because it is exceedingly subtle. It may be because the mind is distracted. It may be because a faculty is impaired. Or it may be because one has not yet attained the wisdom that corresponds to it.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this as the treatise correcting a hidden assumption both rival doctrines share: that a thing's existence and its being currently perceptible must always match exactly, so that anything unseen must either not exist yet (the ordinary view) or must be hidden behind some single removable veil (the doctrines just refuted). The Buddhist position instead lists six genuinely different reasons a real, existing thing can fail to appear to a given observer at a given moment, none of which requires positing that the thing was somehow already "there" waiting to be revealed: sheer distance (a mountain city genuinely exists though invisible from far away); four distinct kinds of obstruction — concealment by darkness or ignorance, suppression by a herb's or a spirit's power, being eclipsed by something brighter (a star still exists once the sun has risen, merely outshone), and illusion (an elephant made to look like a rabbit through magical deception); extreme subtlety, itself of three kinds — physical matter analyzed down past the point of visibility, an intermediate-state being unseen yet real, or a siddha's subtle supernormal power; a mind too scattered to perceive a meditative state that genuinely exists for someone with actual concentration; a damaged sense-faculty, whether partially impaired (blurred, doubled, or miscolored vision) or entirely destroyed (blindness, which does not erase the mountains and rivers still there); and, subtlest of all, ultimate truth's own characteristic, genuinely existing yet inapprehensible to anyone who has not yet attained the specific wisdom that alone can grasp it.

He treats this sixfold list as valuable well beyond refuting one rival school — a standing corrective against the ordinary human habit of mistaking "I cannot currently perceive this" for "this does not exist," useful for a meditator assessing their own progress as much as for a philosopher assessing causation.

8. The Sound-Theorists Fall the Same Way, and the Second Doctrine Closes

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如因果顯了論不應道理,當知聲相論者亦不應理。此中差別者,外聲論師起如是見,立如是論:聲相常住,無生無滅;然由宣吐方得顯了。是故此論如顯了論,非應理說。

Ru-Yi Translation

Just as the doctrine of manifestation through condition does not accord with reason, so too the Sound-nature theorists' doctrine should be understood as unreasonable. Their distinctive claim is this: non-Buddhist Sound-theorists hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that the nature of sound is permanent, neither arising nor ceasing, and is merely made manifest through its utterance. This doctrine, therefore, like the doctrine of manifestation, is not a soundly reasoned teaching.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi notes the Sound-theorists' claim is simply the doctrine of manifestation applied to a single special case: an eternal, uncreated "sound-nature" behind every spoken word, with the physical act of speaking doing nothing but revealing, never creating, that eternal reality — the same theoretical move the grammarian and Mīmāṃsā schools used to secure the eternal authority of the Vedas' own words. Since it rests on the identical claim already dismantled — something wholly existing beforehand, merely awaiting a condition to become manifest — the treatise simply refers back to its own prior refutation rather than repeating it, closing this second of sixteen doctrines and turning next to the third: whether the past and future truly, substantially exist.

9. The Third Doctrine: Do Past and Future Truly, Substantially Exist?

The treatise's third doctrine marks a notable shift — for the first time, the position under scrutiny is held not only by outside teachers but by certain Buddhists themselves, who read scripture as teaching that past and future are just as real as the present.

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去來實有論者,謂如有一,若沙門、若婆羅門、若在此法者,由不正思惟故,起如是見,立如是論:有過去,有未來,其相成就,猶如現在,實有非假。

Ru-Yi Translation

The doctrine that past and future truly exist: there are certain renunciants, brahmins, or even those within this very teaching who, through unsound reflection, hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that the past exists, the future exists, their characteristics fully accomplished exactly as the present's are, truly existing rather than merely nominal.

謂如經言:一切有者,即十二處。此十二處,實相是有。又薄伽梵說有過去業。又說有過去色、有未來色,廣說乃至識亦如是。

That is: as the sūtra states, "all that exists" refers to the twelve sense-bases — and so, they reason, these twelve sense-bases truly, substantially exist. Further, the Blessed One spoke of past karma existing. Further, he spoke of past form existing and future form existing, and so on in full detail through consciousness as well.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi identifies this doctrine's Buddhist wing as the Sarvāstivāda ("all exists") school, whose very name announces the position: past, present, and future phenomena all substantially exist, karma performed long ago retaining a real, persisting substance somewhere in the past rather than simply vanishing. He traces their scriptural basis to three passages easily misread this way: the Buddha's statement that "all that exists" is the twelve sense-bases, taken to mean all twelve substantially exist, full stop; his repeated references to "past karma" as though naming a still-existing thing rather than merely a past event; and the classical contemplation formula instructing practitioners to observe form "whether past, future, or present, internal or external, coarse or fine" as equally real objects of observation — all three, on the Sarvāstivādin reading, implying the past and future must be just as substantially there as the present, or the Buddha's own words would be speaking of nothing at all.

10. Why They Thought Denying Past and Future Would Destroy Karma and Cognition

Chinese Source

彼如是思:若法自相安住,此法真實是有。此若未來無者,爾時應未受相;此若過去無者,爾時應失自相。若如是者,諸法自相應不成就。由此道理,亦非真實,故不應理。由是思惟,起如是見,立如是論:過去、未來性相實有。

Ru-Yi Translation

They reason thus: if a phenomenon's own characteristic remains established, that phenomenon truly exists. Were this phenomenon nonexistent while future, it would, at that time, never have taken on its characteristic at all; were it nonexistent once past, it would, at that time, have already lost its own characteristic. Were this so, no phenomenon's own characteristic could ever be genuinely established — and by this reasoning, nothing would be truly real, which makes no sense. Reasoning in this way, they arrive at this view, and establish this doctrine: that the characteristics of the past and future truly, substantially exist.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reconstructs the underlying worry driving this whole doctrine: if a future phenomenon is simply nonexistent until the moment it arises, then nothing at all would actually be waiting to arise — arising would come from sheer nothing, which feels deeply wrong; and if a past phenomenon simply ceases to exist the instant it passes, then how could a deed committed years ago still somehow determine a result appearing only now? Without treating both past and future as substantially real, they worried, the entire mechanism of karmic cause and effect across time would collapse into incoherence — a deed that no longer exists cannot cause anything, and a result that does not yet exist cannot be caused by anything. It is this genuine anxiety about preserving karmic continuity, Cháng Bǎi notes, not mere stubbornness, that drove otherwise careful Buddhist thinkers to conclude past and future must be every bit as real as the present — setting up the treatise's own, very different solution still to come.

11. Two Dilemmas: Is a Past or Future Thing the Same as, or Different From, a Present One?

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應審問彼:汝何所欲?去來二相與現在相為一為異?若言相一,立三世相,不應道理。若相異者,性相實有,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

One should press them thus: what, precisely, do you mean — are the characteristics of the past and future the same as, or different from, the characteristic of the present? If you say they are the same, then establishing three distinct times makes no sense. If they are different, then claiming past and future substantially, truly exist just as the present does makes no sense.

又汝應說自意所欲。墮三世法,為是常相?為無常相?若常相者,墮在三世,不應道理。若無常相,於三世中恆是實有,不應道理。

Further, you should state what you actually intend: is a phenomenon falling within the three times permanent in character, or impermanent? If permanent, then for it to fall within three distinct times at all makes no sense. If impermanent, then for it to be equally, perpetually, truly existent throughout all three times makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads both dilemmas as exposing the same underlying tension from two angles. The first: if a thing's past, present, and future characteristics are simply identical, there is nothing left to distinguish "three times" at all — the very words past, present, and future would be empty labels for one undifferentiated reality; yet if they genuinely differ, only the present characteristic is ever actually apprehended (a phenomenon exists as itself only once it has arisen and before it ceases), so calling the past and future's different characteristics equally "truly existent" contradicts the very fact that only the present is ever actually found.

The second dilemma presses the same point through change itself: something permanent, by definition, cannot fall into distinct temporal phases at all — permanence and having a past, present, and future are simply incompatible; yet something impermanent is, by definition, exactly what does not remain equally existent across all three times, since impermanence just means having arisen and having yet to cease. Either way, Cháng Bǎi notes, the Sarvāstivādin claim runs directly against ordinary reasoning about what "past," "future," and "impermanent" actually mean — the correct Buddhist teaching, given a few sections later, is that only present phenomena, already arisen and not yet ceased, genuinely have a characteristic that can be found at all; the past and future are real only in the sense that a cause has already left its residue as a seed, or a result is already assured by conditions now in place — never as substances somehow persisting or pre-existing in their own right.

12. Seven Ways a Future Thing Might "Arrive" at the Present — All Refuted

Pressing further, the treatise poses seven specific mechanisms by which a future phenomenon could supposedly become a present one, and dismantles each in turn — the treatise's most granular single refutation anywhere in this fascicle so far.

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又今問汝,隨汝意答。為計未來法來至現在世耶?為彼死已,於此生耶?為即住未來為緣,生現在耶?為本無業,今有業耶?為本相不圓滿,今相圓滿耶?為本異相,今異相耶?為於未來有現在分耶?

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: do you hold that a future phenomenon arrives in the present world? Or that it dies, and only then is born here? Or that, remaining in the future, it serves as a condition that gives rise to the present? Or that it has no function while future, and gains a function now? Or that its characteristic is incomplete while future, and becomes complete now? Or that its characteristic while future differs from its characteristic now? Or that a portion of the present already exists within the future?

若即未來法來至現在者,此便有方所;復與現在應無差別;復應是常;不應道理。若言未來死已現在生者,是即未來不生於今;現在世法本無今生;又未來未生而言死沒;不應道理。

If a future phenomenon simply arrives in the present, it would have to already occupy a location — it would then be indistinguishable from a present phenomenon, and would have to be permanent; none of this makes sense. If you say it dies while future and is then born in the present, then what was future does not itself give rise to the present; the present phenomenon would then have no genuine "arising" at all; and, further, to speak of something dying that was never even born makes no sense.

若言法住未來,以彼為緣生現在者,彼應是常;又應本無今生,非未來法生;不應道理。若本無業用,今有業用,是則本無今有,便有如前所說過失,不應道理。

If you say the phenomenon, remaining in the future, serves as a condition producing the present, then it would have to be permanent, and, again, the present would have no genuine arising and would not actually be produced by the future; this makes no sense. If it has no function while future and only gains a function now, this is again a case of something nonexistent becoming existent, carrying the same faults already stated; this makes no sense.

如無業用有此過失,如是相圓滿、異相、未來分相應知亦爾。此中差別者,復有自性雜亂過失故,不應道理。如未來向現在如是,現在往過去,如其所應過失應知。

Just as the "gaining a function" claim carries this fault, so too should the "characteristic becomes complete," "characteristic differs," and "a portion already present" claims each be understood to carry it as well. What further distinguishes these is the fault of the very self-nature of the phenomenon becoming confused — one and the same thing being, at once, incomplete and complete, or both cause-aspect and result-aspect; this makes no sense. Just as these faults apply to the future becoming present, so too, correspondingly, should they be understood to apply to the present passing into the past.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi walks through all seven mechanisms as exhausting every conceivable way "arrival" could actually work, each failing for its own precise reason. Literal arrival requires the future thing to already have a location to arrive from — but nothing about tomorrow can be located anywhere today — and if it did have one, it would already be indistinguishable from something present, and permanent besides, since it would have existed unchanged the whole time. Dying-then-being-reborn fares no better: what dies cannot be what causes the new birth, so the present would have no real source at all, and worse, calling something "dead" that was never yet born is simply incoherent. Remaining future while merely "serving as a condition" repeats the same permanence problem, since only an already-arisen thing can properly function as a condition for anything. And the remaining four — gaining a function it lacked, becoming complete where it was incomplete, differing in characteristic from its future self, or already containing a "present portion" while still future — all reduce to the same basic move: something nonexistent quietly becoming existent, dressed up in different vocabulary each time, and the last three additionally saddle one single phenomenon with two flatly contradictory natures at once (incomplete and complete, cause-aspect and result-aspect), a confusion of self-nature no coherent theory can survive. He notes the identical seven failures recur, symmetrically, when a present phenomenon is said to "pass into" the past — the same impossible mechanics run in reverse.

13. If Past and Future Aren't Real, How Can the Mind Even Think About Them?

Having pressed the Sarvāstivādin position to its breaking point across nine separate angles, the treatise now answers the objection its own conclusion seems to invite: if past and future do not truly exist, how can the mind cognize them at all without cognizing sheer nothing?

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如是自相故,共相故,來故,死故,為緣生故,業故,相圓滿故,相異故,未來有分故,說過去未來體實有論,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Thus, through self-characteristic, through shared characteristic, through arrival, through dying, through serving as a condition of production, through function, through completeness of characteristic, through difference of characteristic, and through the future already containing a portion of the present — through these nine approaches, the doctrine that the substance of past and future truly exists does not accord with reason.

復有難言:若過去、未來是無,云何緣無而有覺轉?若言緣無而有覺轉者,云何不有違教過失?如說:一切有者,謂十二處。我今問汝,隨汝意答。世間取無之覺為起耶?為不起耶?若不起者,能取無我、兔角、石女兒等覺皆應是無,此不應理。

A further objection is raised: if the past and future do not exist, how can cognition operate by taking something nonexistent as its object? And if cognition can indeed operate by taking something nonexistent as its object, how does this not contradict the Buddha's own teaching that "all that exists" is the twelve sense-bases? I now ask you in turn, answer as you see fit: does the world's cognition of what is nonexistent arise at all, or does it not? If it does not arise, then cognition taking non-self, a hare's horn, or a barren woman's child as its object should likewise be nonexistent — which makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this as a genuinely fair objection the Sarvāstivādins raise against the treatise's own position, not a strawman: everyday experience clearly shows the mind thinking about the past and imagining the future constantly, so if neither substantially exists, doesn't cognition end up grasping pure nothingness — which sounds absurd, and which also seems to contradict the Buddha's own statement that "all that exists" is the twelve sense-bases, since past and future form and consciousness were explicitly included among what the Buddha called existent?

The treatise's counter-question exposes the objection's own hidden assumption: everyday cognition plainly does take non-existent things as objects all the time — the concept of "no-self," a hare's horn, or a barren woman's child are all classic Buddhist examples of coherently thinkable things that are nonetheless not substantially, independently existing entities out there in the world. If the objector insists cognition of the nonexistent never arises at all, they would have to deny that anyone can even think about non-self or a hare's horn, which plainly happens and which no one, Buddhist or otherwise, actually wants to deny. Cháng Bǎi flags this as the treatise's opening move in a longer answer still to come — showing that the mind's capacity to cognize the past and future is fully explicable without requiring either to be a substantially, independently existing thing, dissolving the apparent contradiction with the Buddha's twelve-sense-bases teaching along the way.

14. The Hidden Intent Behind "All That Exists Is the Twelve Sense-Bases"

Having shown that cognition of the nonexistent is perfectly ordinary and unproblematic, the treatise turns to explain what the Buddha's own scriptural statements actually meant — beginning with the very passage the Sarvāstivādins built their whole doctrine on.

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又雖說一切有者,謂十二處;然於有法密意說有有相,於無法密意說有無相。所以者何?若有相法能持有相,若無相法能持無相;是故俱名為法,俱名為有。若異此者,諸修行者唯知於有,不知於無;應非無間觀所知法,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, although it is said that "all that exists" refers to the twelve sense-bases, this is spoken with hidden intent: of what has existent characteristics, it is said to have the characteristic of existing; of what has no such characteristics, it is said to have the characteristic of not existing. Why is this? Because whatever has an existent characteristic can sustain that existent characteristic, and whatever has no such characteristic can sustain that absence — and so both alike are called a "phenomenon," and both alike are called "existent." Were it otherwise, practitioners would know only the existent and never the nonexistent, and so could not continuously and without interruption contemplate every knowable phenomenon — which makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi unpacks "hidden intent" as the treatise's standard tool for reconciling an apparently literal scriptural statement with its own deeper teaching: the Buddha's word "phenomenon" (法) in "all that exists is the twelve sense-bases" was never meant to certify that everything nameable is a substantially existing thing — it was meant to cover both what genuinely exists (the five aggregates, causally arisen and directly experienced) and what does not (a permanent self, a hare's horn), precisely because the sixth consciousness, unlike the five sense-consciousnesses that can only cognize their own present physical objects, is uniquely capable of taking either the existent or the nonexistent as its object. Both count as "phenomena" and both are loosely called "existent" in this technical sense — one existing as an actual referent, the other existing only as a coherently thinkable absence — precisely so that a meditator practicing insight can systematically contemplate every knowable thing without gaps, including the crucial insight that no fixed self exists at all. Had the Buddha's statement really meant only substantially real things could ever be objects of the mind, no practitioner could ever complete the contemplation of non-self that is central to the entire path — an absurd result that itself proves the "hidden intent" reading correct.

15. "Past Karma Exists" Really Means Its Habitual Imprint Persists

The treatise now unpacks the second scriptural pillar of the Sarvāstivādin position — the Buddha's own statements about "past karma" — showing they point not to the deed itself somehow still existing, but to something the treatise has already carefully explained: the seed it leaves behind.

Chinese Source

又雖說言有過去業;由此業故,諸有情受有損害受、受無損害受。此亦依彼習氣,密意假說為有。謂於諸行中,曾有淨不淨業若生若滅。由此因緣,彼行勝異相續而轉,是名習氣。由此相續所攝習氣故,愛不愛果生。是故於我無過,而汝不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, although it is said that past karma exists, and that by reason of this karma beings experience harmful or harmless feeling, this too is spoken provisionally, with hidden intent, in reference to its habitual imprint. That is: among the formations, pure or impure karma once arose and ceased. By reason of this, those formations continue on, transformed and intensified in succession — this is called a habitual imprint. It is by reason of this habitual imprint, held within the mental continuum, that desirable and undesirable results arise. There is, therefore, no fault in my position — it is your own position that does not accord with reason.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi ties this directly back to the treatise's own earlier account, in fascicle 5, of the impelling cause and the moistened seed: when the Buddha spoke of "past karma" producing present pleasant or painful feeling, he never meant the karmic act itself somehow still exists somewhere in a real past — the act arose and ceased just once, in the ordinary way. What actually persists, carried forward moment to moment in the ālayavijñāna's own continuum, is the habitual imprint that act left behind: a seed, progressively reinforced by subsequent craving and clinging, which eventually ripens into exactly the desirable or undesirable result that seed was fitted to produce. Speaking of "past karma existing" is simply an economical, provisional way of referring to this seed's continued presence in an unbroken mental stream — not a claim that the past itself, as a substantial reality, is still sitting somewhere waiting to be visited. Read this way, the doctrine of karmic continuity across time is fully preserved — nothing about moral cause and effect is lost — without ever requiring the incoherent claim that a completed, vanished event somehow still exists.

16. Cause-Aspect, Own-Aspect, Result-Aspect: Why Form Is Called Past, Present, and Future

The treatise closes its threefold "hidden intent" explanation with the third scriptural pillar — why the Buddha spoke of form, feeling, and the rest as past, present, and future at all — resolving it into three aspects that point to impermanence rather than three substantially real time-periods.

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復雖說言有過去色、有未來色、有現在色,如是乃至識亦爾者,此亦依三種行相密意故說。謂因相、自相、果相。依彼因相,密意說有未來;依彼自相,密意說有現在;依彼果相,密意說有過去;是故無過。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, although it is said that past form exists, future form exists, and present form exists, and so on in the same way through consciousness, this too is spoken with hidden intent, in reference to three aspects: the cause-aspect, the own-aspect, and the result-aspect. It is with reference to the cause-aspect that future existence is spoken of with hidden intent; with reference to the own-aspect that present existence is spoken of with hidden intent; and with reference to the result-aspect that past existence is spoken of with hidden intent. There is, therefore, no fault in this teaching.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi glosses the three aspects concretely: the cause-aspect names a phenomenon not yet actually experienced, still awaiting the right conditions to arise — this is what "future" really refers to, a real causal potential rather than a substantial thing already sitting in wait; the own-aspect names a phenomenon actually being experienced right now, its own substance not yet having ceased — this is simply what "present" means; and the result-aspect names a phenomenon already experienced, its substance already having ceased — this is what "past" really refers to, the settled result a cause has already produced, not a persisting entity. He notes the entire threefold scheme is explicitly designed, in the treatise's own words, to display the impermanence of all conditioned phenomena across the three times — the very opposite conclusion from the Sarvāstivādin claim that past, present, and future are all equally, substantially real. Where the Sarvāstivādins heard "past color exists" and concluded past color must be a persisting substance, the correct reading hears the same words and concludes only that a result now stands where its cause once operated — form is called "past" the moment its own aspect gives way to being merely someone's completed result, nothing more.

With this, the treatise has fully answered why scripture speaks of past and future "existing" at all, without needing to grant them any substantial reality: the twelve sense-bases' "existence" covers the nonexistent as an object of thought no less than the existent; "past karma" names a persisting seed, not a persisting deed; and "past and future form" names a cause-aspect and result-aspect relative to the present moment, not a parallel substantial reality running alongside it. The treatise now turns to directly refute the claim that past and future have any truly existing characteristic at all, closing the third of sixteen doctrines.

17. Twelve Marks Each of Future, Present, and Past — and Doctrine Three Closes

The treatise's final word on the third doctrine is not merely negative. It offers twelve marks each for future, present, and past phenomena — thirty-six in all — turning what began as a technical refutation of substantial three-time realism into a practical framework for how a practitioner should actually regard each of the three times.

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應知未來有十二種相故。一、因所顯相,二、體未生相,三、待眾緣相,四、已生種類相,五、可生法相,六、不可生法相,七、未生雜染相,八、未生清淨相,九、應可求相,十、不應求相,十一、應觀察相,十二、不應觀察相。

Ru-Yi Translation

It should be understood that the future has twelve marks: first, the mark of being made manifest through a cause; second, the mark of a substance not yet arisen; third, the mark of awaiting an assembly of conditions; fourth, the mark of belonging to a kind already arisen elsewhere; fifth, the mark of a phenomenon still capable of arising; sixth, the mark of a phenomenon no longer capable of arising; seventh, the mark of a not-yet-arisen defilement; eighth, the mark of a not-yet-arisen purity; ninth, the mark of what should rightly be sought; tenth, the mark of what should not be sought; eleventh, the mark of what should be contemplated; twelfth, the mark of what should not be contemplated.

當知現在亦有十二種相。一、果所顯相,二、體已生相,三、眾緣會相,四、已生種類相,五、一剎那相,六、不復生法相,七、現雜染相,八、現清淨相,九、可喜樂相,十、不可喜樂相,十一、應觀察相,十二、不應觀察相。

It should be understood that the present likewise has twelve marks: first, the mark of being made manifest as a result; second, the mark of a substance already arisen; third, the mark of an actual assembly of conditions; fourth, the mark of belonging to a kind already arisen; fifth, the mark of lasting but a single instant; sixth, the mark of not arising again once spent; seventh, the mark of present defilement; eighth, the mark of present purity; ninth, the mark of what is genuinely delightful; tenth, the mark of what is not delightful; eleventh, the mark of what should be contemplated; twelfth, the mark of what should not be contemplated.

當知過去亦有十二種相。一、已度因相,二、已度緣相,三、已度果相,四、體已壞相,五、已滅種類相,六、不復生法相,七、靜息雜染相,八、靜息清淨相,九、應顧戀處相,十、不應顧戀處相,十一、應觀察相,十二、不應觀察相。

It should be understood that the past likewise has twelve marks: first, the mark of a cause already passed; second, the mark of a condition already passed; third, the mark of a result already passed; fourth, the mark of a substance already destroyed; fifth, the mark of belonging to a kind already ceased; sixth, the mark of never arising again; seventh, the mark of defilement now stilled; eighth, the mark of purity now stilled; ninth, the mark of what should rightly be looked back on with longing; tenth, the mark of what should not be looked back on with longing; eleventh, the mark of what should be contemplated; twelfth, the mark of what should not be contemplated.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads the first six marks in each set as simply cataloguing how each time genuinely relates to causal process — the future as what a present cause points toward yet still awaits its own conditions before arising; the present as an actual result now manifest, existing for a single fleeting instant before it is inevitably spent, never to recur in that exact form; the past as what has already fully run its course, its causes, conditions, and result all spent, its substance already destroyed, gone for good. None of the three, he stresses, is granted the substantial, persisting existence the Sarvāstivādins wanted — only the present even has a "substance already arisen" at all, and even that lasts a single instant.

The remaining six marks in each set, he notes, turn the same analysis into direct practical guidance: a future defilement not yet arisen can still be prevented, a future purity not yet arisen can still be cultivated, and unsurpassed awakening is the one future thing genuinely worth seeking, while craving for desire, meditative bliss, or a mistaken sense of liberation are not; the present offers what is genuinely delightful and what is not, and calls for actively contemplating the Buddha's own teaching rather than whatever breeds fresh defilement; and the past, its defilement or purity now equally stilled, divides into what is worth fondly recalling and continuing (past wholesome cultivation) and what is not (past indulgence in desire, better simply released once already confessed and purified, since dwelling on old faults, he says, is itself an arrow lodged in the heart that blocks further practice).

With this thirty-six-mark framework, the treatise completes its refutation of both the non-Buddhist and the internal Sarvāstivādin claim that past, present, and future are all equally, substantially real — only the present genuinely exists as an arisen substance, if only for an instant — while converting the entire debate into something a practitioner can actually use: how to relate rightly to what has not yet come, what is happening now, and what has already passed. This closes the third of sixteen doctrines. The treatise turns next to the fourth: the doctrine positing a self.

18. The Fourth Doctrine: A Self That Persists Through the Five Aggregates

The treatise's fourth doctrine confronts what may be the single most natural and universal error it addresses: the ordinary, near-automatic sense that a stable "self" exists behind experience — one held not by any single school but, in some form, by non-Buddhist teachers generally.

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計我論者,謂如有一,若沙門、若婆羅門,起如是見,立如是論:有我、薩埵、命者、生者、有養育者、數取趣者,如是等諦實常住。謂外道等作如是計。

Ru-Yi Translation

The doctrine positing a self: there are certain renunciants or brahmins who hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that there exists a self, a sentient being, a life-possessor, one who is born, one who is nurtured, one who repeatedly takes up a destiny — all such terms naming something truly, permanently existing. It is non-Buddhist teachers generally who hold this position.

由二種因故。一、先不思覺,率爾而得有薩埵覺故;二、先已思覺,得有作故。彼如是思:若無我者,見於五事不應起於五有我覺。

This arises from two causes. First, without any prior deliberation, the sense of a sentient being spontaneously arises. Second, having first deliberately conceived of a self, one is then able to act. They reason thus: were there no self, upon perceiving any of five things, five corresponding senses of "self" ought never to arise.

一、見色形已,唯應起於色形之覺,不應起於薩埵之覺。二、見順苦樂行已,唯應起於受覺,不應起於勝劣薩埵之覺。三、見已立名者名相應行已,唯應起於想覺,不應起於剎帝利、婆羅門、吠舍、戍陀羅、佛授、德友等薩埵之覺。

First: upon seeing a bodily form, one should only ever arrive at the sense of a bodily shape, never at the sense of a sentient being. Second: upon witnessing what accords with pain or with pleasure, one should only ever arrive at a sense of mere feeling, never at a sense of a sentient being as superior or inferior. Third: upon seeing one already given a name and the conduct associated with that name, one should only ever arrive at a sense of mere conception, never at a sense of this sentient being as a warrior, a brahmin, a merchant, a laborer, or as "Buddhadatta" or "Guṇamitra" and the like.

四、見作淨不淨相應行已,唯應起於行覺,不應起於愚者、智者薩埵之覺。五、見於境界,識隨轉已,唯應起於心覺,不應起於我能見等薩埵之覺。由如是先不思覺,於此五事唯起五種薩埵之覺,非諸行覺。是故先不思覺,見已率爾而起,有薩埵覺故,如是決定知有實我。

Fourth: upon seeing conduct that is either pure or impure, one should only ever arrive at a sense of mere formation, never at a sense of this sentient being as foolish or wise. Fifth: upon seeing consciousness follow along with its object, one should only ever arrive at a sense of mere mind, never at a sense of "I am the one who sees" and the like. Yet since, without prior deliberation, these five things each give rise to a sense of a sentient being rather than a sense of mere formations, and since this sense arises spontaneously the very instant of perceiving, they conclude with certainty that a real self must exist.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this first argument as the most psychologically compelling of the whole doctrine, precisely because it describes something every unenlightened mind actually experiences: seeing a body, the mind does not stop at "a shape" but leaps immediately to "someone"; seeing pain or pleasure, it does not stop at "a feeling" but leaps to judging that person as fortunate or unfortunate; seeing a name and its associated conduct, it does not stop at "a concept" but leaps to caste and identity — warrior, brahmin, merchant, laborer, or a specific named individual; seeing wholesome or unwholesome conduct, it does not stop at "an action" but leaps to judging the doer wise or foolish; and seeing consciousness track its object, it does not stop at "cognition occurring" but leaps to "I am the one seeing." Since this leap to "a sentient being" happens instantly and without any deliberate reasoning, across all five aggregates uniformly, non-Buddhist teachers concluded it must be tracking something real and stable — a genuine, permanent self underlying the five aggregates' constant flux — rather than being, as the treatise will go on to argue, simply a deeply ingrained habitual projection with no real referent at all.

19. The Second Reason: Self Assumed Wherever Deliberate Action Occurs

The treatise completes the doctrine's second supporting reason — that a self must exist because deliberate intention seems to precede every action — before turning, across a long and rigorous sequence of dilemmas, to dismantle both reasons entirely.

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又彼如是思:若無我者,不應於諸行中,先起思覺,得有所作。謂我以眼當見諸色,正見諸色,已見諸色;或復起心,我不當見。如是等用,皆由我覺行為先導。如於眼見,如是於耳鼻舌身意,應知亦爾。

Ru-Yi Translation

They further reason thus: were there no self, one could not, among the formations, first conceive an intention and thereby come to act. That is: "I shall see these forms with my eye," "I am now seeing these forms," "I have already seen these forms" — or else the thought arises, "I shall not see." All such functions are led by a prior sense of "I." As with seeing through the eye, so too should it be understood with the ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind.

又於善業造作、善業止息,不善業造作、不善業止息,如是等事皆由思覺為先方得作用,應不可得。如是等用,唯於諸行,不應道理。由如是思,故說有我。

Further, the performing of wholesome karma, the ceasing of wholesome karma, the performing of unwholesome karma, and the ceasing of unwholesome karma — such actions, too, could only ever function given a prior deliberate intention; without one, they could never be found to occur at all. Such functioning, they conclude, could never belong to mere impersonal formations alone — this makes no sense. It is by reasoning in this way that they maintain a self exists.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this second reason as complementing the first: where the first reason pointed to an involuntary, instantaneous sense of "someone" arising the moment any of the five aggregates is perceived, this second reason points to the equally familiar experience of deliberate intention — "I shall look," "I am looking," "I have looked," or choosing not to — running through every one of the six sense-faculties, and through every wholesome or unwholesome deed a person chooses to perform or to refrain from performing. Since mere impersonal, momentary formations, on their own, seemed to this school incapable of accounting for that felt sense of a deciding agent standing behind each act, they concluded a genuine, persisting self must be what actually decides and acts — closing out the doctrine's full positive case before the treatise turns to methodically dismantle it.

20. Four Dilemmas That Dismantle the Sense of a Self

The treatise now presses the doctrine with a sequence of precise dilemmas, each forcing a choice between two options and showing both to fail.

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我今問汝,隨汝意答。為即於所見事起薩埵覺?為異於所見事起薩埵覺耶?若即於所見事起薩埵覺者,汝不應言:即於色等計有薩埵、計有我者,是顛倒覺。若異於所見事起薩埵覺者,我有形量,不應道理;或有勝劣,或剎帝利等,或愚或智,或能取彼色等境界,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

I now ask you, answer as you see fit: does the sense of a sentient being arise directly within what is seen, or apart from what is seen? If directly within what is seen, then you should not also claim that positing a sentient being, positing a self, directly within form and the rest, is itself a distorted perception — yet your own school says exactly this elsewhere. If apart from what is seen, then for the self to have any size or shape makes no sense; for it to be superior or inferior, a warrior or a brahmin, foolish or wise, or capable of apprehending form and the rest as its object, likewise makes no sense — since none of these are properties a self apart from the aggregates could ever possess.

又汝何所欲?為唯由此法自體起此覺耶?為亦由餘體起此覺耶?若唯由此法自體起此覺者,即於所見起彼我覺,不應說名為顛倒覺。若亦由餘體起此覺者,即一切境界各是一切境界覺因,故不應理。

Further, what do you actually intend: does this sense arise solely from the aggregates' own substance, or also from some other substance? If solely from the aggregates' own substance, then arriving at a sense of self directly within what is seen should not be called a distorted perception after all. If also from some other substance, then every object whatsoever would equally be the cause of every other sense of self — which makes no sense.

又汝何所欲?於無情數有情覺,於有情數無情覺,於餘有情數餘有情覺,為起為不起耶?若起者,是即無情應是有情,有情應是無情,是餘有情應是餘有情,此不應理。若不起者,則誹撥現量,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: does a sense of a sentient being ever arise regarding something insentient, a sense of the insentient regarding something sentient, or a sense of one sentient being regarding a different one — or does this never happen? If it does happen, then the insentient would have to actually be sentient, the sentient insentient, and one being actually another — none of which makes sense. If it never happens, then this denies what is plainly observed every day — which likewise makes no sense.

又汝何所欲?此薩埵覺為取現量義?為取比量義耶?若取現量義者,唯色等蘊是現量義,我非現量義,故不應理。

Further, what do you actually intend: does this sense of a sentient being take its object through direct perception, or through inference? If through direct perception, then only the aggregates — form and the rest — are ever objects of direct perception; a self is never an object of direct perception at all, so this makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi walks through all four dilemmas as systematically closing off every place a self could possibly be hiding. The first asks whether the sense of "someone" arises right within the aggregates themselves or somewhere apart from them: if right within them, the doctrine's own claim that seeing a self within the aggregates is a "distorted perception" directly contradicts itself; if apart from them, a bodiless, sizeless, propertyless self could never explain why the sense of self always comes dressed in exactly the aggregates' own properties — a body's shape, a feeling's quality, a caste identity, a wise or foolish act, an object apprehended — since a self entirely separate from the aggregates could not intelligibly possess any of these at all.

The second asks whether that sense arises solely from the aggregates' own nature or from some further, separate substance: solely from the aggregates concedes the whole game, since then "self" is nothing but a name for the aggregates themselves, exactly what the treatise wants to show; from a separate substance leads to absurdity, since if a sense of self can arise from something entirely apart from what generates it, any object at all should be equally capable of generating a sense of self about anything else, dissolving any reliable connection between what is perceived and what is judged.

The third exposes the same fragility from another angle — everyday experience clearly shows people mistaking a distant stump for a person, a motionless guard for a tree, or one person for another; if the doctrine denies such perceptual mix-ups ever happen, it denies plain, common experience, but if it admits they happen, it has just admitted that the very same faculty generating the "sense of self" is fully capable of generating a mistaken, groundless impression — undermining any claim that the self-sense reliably tracks something real. And the fourth cuts most directly: a self is never actually, directly perceived the way the aggregates are — no one has ever seen, heard, or touched a bare self apart from color, sound, feeling, and thought — so the felt sense of "I" cannot be resting on direct perception at all, only, at best, on an unreliable inference the treatise has still further dilemmas waiting to dismantle.

21. Four More Dilemmas, Now Aimed at the Second Reason — Deliberate Action

Having closed off the "instantaneous sense of a being" reason, the treatise turns its identical dilemma-method onto the doctrine's second reason: that deliberate intention preceding action proves a self exists.

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若取比量義者,如愚稚等未能思度,不應率爾起於我覺。又我今問汝,隨汝意答。如世間所作,為以覺為因?為以我為因?若以覺為因者,執我所作,不應道理。若以我為因者,要先思覺,得有所作,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

If through inference, then even foolish children, incapable of reasoning, should never spontaneously arrive at a sense of self — yet they plainly do. Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: is worldly action caused by mere cognition, or caused by a self? If caused by mere cognition, then to insist it is caused by a self makes no sense. If caused by a self, then requiring a prior deliberate intention before any action can occur makes no sense — since the self, on your own account, is what already causes it.

又汝何所欲?所作事因常無常耶?若無常者,此所作因,體是變異;執我有作,不應道理。若是常者,即無變異;無變有作,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: is the cause of action permanent, or impermanent? If impermanent, its own substance undergoes change — yet you hold the self to be permanent, so claiming this changeable cause is the self makes no sense. If permanent, it undergoes no change at all — yet something utterly unchanging producing action makes no sense either.

又汝何所欲?為有動作之我能有所作?為無動作之我有所作耶?若有動作之我能有所作者,是即常作,不應復作。若無動作之我有所作者,無動作性,而有所作,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: does a self with motion produce action, or a self without motion? If a self with motion produces action, it should then act perpetually and without pause — never needing to act again after having already acted — yet this plainly is not so. If a self without motion produces action, then something with no capacity for motion at all nonetheless producing action makes no sense.

又汝何所欲?為有因故我有所作?為無因耶?若有因者,此我應由餘因策發方有所作,不應道理。若無因者,應一切時作一切事,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: does the self act because of some further cause, or without any cause at all? If because of some further cause, then the self must first be roused to action by that further cause — yet you claim the self itself is the cause, so this makes no sense. If without any cause at all, then, being permanent, it should act on everything at all times without exception — yet this plainly is not so.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads all four dilemmas as converging on a single, elegant proof: whatever genuinely causes action must itself be impermanent — capable of sometimes being active and sometimes not, the way a person sometimes cooks and sometimes rests, sometimes reads and sometimes stops — while a permanent self, by the doctrine's own definition, can never change at all, and so could never explain why action starts and stops as it plainly does. The first dilemma catches the doctrine contradicting itself: if mere cognition already causes action, the self is redundant; if the self causes it, requiring a further prior "intention" makes no sense, since the doctrine had claimed the self itself does the causing.

The second and third dilemmas press the same point through permanence directly: a permanent cause cannot change, so it cannot explain why action sometimes occurs and sometimes doesn't; an unmoving self could not produce motion in the first place, while a moving self — if it is genuinely permanent — should be moving and acting at every single moment without exception, since permanence rules out the very starting and stopping every observer actually witnesses (the eye looks, then rests; the ear listens, then stops). The fourth exposes the same tension from the angle of causation itself: if the self needs some further cause to prompt it into action, it is not really the ultimate cause of anything; if it needs no cause at all, being permanent it should act ceaselessly and universally, which manifestly does not happen. Cháng Bǎi notes that every one of these eight dilemmas, across both of the doctrine's original two reasons, keeps arriving at the identical structural flaw: a permanent, unchanging self simply cannot do the one thing the doctrine needs it to do — start and stop producing particular actions at particular times — while only impermanent, momentary mental factors, exactly as the treatise's own analysis of thought and volition already described, can actually account for why action happens when and how it does.

22. Does the Self Act on Its Own, or Depend on Something Else?

One final dilemma closes the treatise's attack on "deliberate intention proves a self," before it turns to the classic fourfold analysis of exactly where, if anywhere, a self could be located relative to the five aggregates.

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又汝何所欲?此我為依自故能有所作?為依他故能有所作?若依自者,此我自作老病死苦雜染等事,不應道理。若依他者,計我所作,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: does this self act depending only on itself, or depending on something else? If depending only on itself, then this self would be bringing about its own aging, sickness, death, suffering, and defilement — which makes no sense, since no one would ever willingly do this to themselves. If depending on something else, then it is not really the self that acts at all — so claiming the self is what acts makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this as a simple but decisive closing blow: if the self alone, needing nothing else, produces its own actions, then it must be personally responsible for its own aging, sickness, death, and every affliction it suffers — an absurd conclusion, since no rational agent would freely choose these for itself; yet if the self needs some further condition before it can act, then the self is not truly the independent, self-sufficient cause the doctrine requires it to be, and whatever that further condition is becomes the real explanation, leaving the self with nothing left to do. Either way, the "self as agent behind deliberate action" reasoning collapses, closing out the treatise's refutation of the doctrine's two founding reasons entirely.

23. Four Places a Self Might Hide Relative to the Aggregates — All Impossible

The treatise now turns to what may be Buddhist philosophy's single most classic argument against a self: exhaustively testing every possible relationship a self could have to the five aggregates, and showing each one fails.

Chinese Source

又我今問汝,隨汝意答。為即於蘊施設有我?為於諸蘊中?為蘊外餘處?為不屬蘊耶?若即於蘊施設我者,是我與蘊無有差別;而計有我諦實常住,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: is the self posited as identical to the aggregates? Within the aggregates? Somewhere apart from the aggregates? Or unrelated to the aggregates entirely? If the self is posited as identical to the aggregates, then the self is no different from the aggregates — yet the aggregates are impermanent, while you claim the self is truly, permanently existing; this makes no sense.

若於諸蘊中者,此我為常?為無常耶?若是常者,常住之我為諸苦樂之所損益,不應道理。若無損益,起法非法,不應道理。若不生起法及非法,應諸蘊身畢竟不起;又應不由功用,我常解脫。

If the self dwells within the aggregates, is it permanent, or impermanent? If permanent, then a permanent self being harmed or benefited by pain and pleasure makes no sense. If it is neither harmed nor benefited, then its ever giving rise to right or wrong conduct makes no sense. And if it gives rise to neither right nor wrong conduct, then the aggregate-body should never arise at all — and the self should already be permanently liberated without any effort whatsoever, which plainly is not so.

若無常者,離蘊體外,有生有滅相續流轉法不可得,故不應理。又於此滅壞,後於餘處不作而得,有大過失,故不應理。

If impermanent, then apart from the substance of the aggregates, no further phenomenon subject to arising, ceasing, and continuous flow can ever be found — this makes no sense. And to say that, once destroyed here, the self is then obtained elsewhere without any further action producing it, carries a grave fault — this makes no sense either.

若蘊外餘處者,汝所計我應是無為,不應道理。若不屬蘊者,我一切時應無染汙,又我與身不應相屬,此不應理。

If the self exists somewhere apart from the aggregates, then the self you posit should be unconditioned — which makes no sense, given your own claim that the self acts and produces effects. If the self is unrelated to the aggregates entirely, then it should be forever undefiled at every moment, and the self should have no relationship whatsoever to this body — neither of which accords with how you actually speak of "my body" and "my self."

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this fourfold test as logically complete — there is simply nowhere else a self could be, relative to the aggregates, than these four positions, and each collapses in its own way. Identical to the aggregates fails immediately: the aggregates are constantly arising and perishing, so a self identical to them could never be the permanent, unchanging entity the doctrine requires — this is simply a contradiction in terms.

Within the aggregates divides further into permanent or impermanent, and both fail: a permanent self dwelling inside changing aggregates should be untouched by their pain and pleasure — yet everyone plainly does feel harmed by suffering and helped by happiness — and if truly untouched, it could never be moved to act rightly or wrongly at all, meaning no aggregate-body should ever have formed in the first place through any karma, and liberation should already be everyone's permanent, effortless condition, which obviously is not so; an impermanent self within the aggregates, meanwhile, simply collapses into being nothing more than the aggregates' own arising-and-perishing process — no separate "self" is left over to speak of — and worse, if that self is destroyed here and yet "obtained again" somewhere else with no action producing it, this severs cause from effect entirely, a fault serious enough to undermine all moral responsibility.

Apart from the aggregates fails because anything genuinely separate from the ever-changing, conditioned aggregates would have to be unconditioned — like nirvāṇa itself — yet the doctrine insists this self actively causes actions and effects, which only conditioned things can do; an unconditioned self could never lift a finger. And unrelated to the aggregates entirely fails on the plainest observational grounds: if the self bears no relationship whatsoever to the body and its defilements, it should remain forever pure regardless of what the body does, and no one should ever meaningfully say "my body" or "I am suffering" — yet this is exactly how everyone, including the doctrine's own proponents, actually speaks. With all four positions exhausted and each shown incoherent, no self can be found anywhere in relation to the aggregates at all.

24. Is the "Seer" the Very Act of Seeing, or Something Apart From It?

The treatise now tests a second way the self might be posited: not merely as somehow related to the aggregates, but specifically as "the one who sees, hears, and cognizes" behind the six sense-functions.

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又汝何所欲?所計之我,為即見者等相?為離見者等相?若即見者等相者,為即於見等假立見者等相?為離於見等別立見者等相?若即於見等假立見者等相者,則應見等是見者等;而汝立我為見者等,不應道理。以見者等與見等相無差別故。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: is the self you posit identical to the mark of "the seer" and the like, or apart from that mark? If identical to it, is that mark of "the seer" posited directly upon the act of seeing itself, or posited apart from that act? If it is posited directly upon the act of seeing itself, then the act of seeing simply is the seer — and your positing a self as the seer, distinct from the mere act, makes no sense, since the mark of "the seer" and the mark of "seeing" are then no different from each other at all.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this as narrowing the search for a self to its most intuitive hiding place — not the aggregates in general, but specifically whatever seems to stand behind an act like seeing and "do" the seeing. The first branch tested is the simplest: perhaps "the seer" just names the very act of seeing itself, with no further entity involved at all. But this, he notes, immediately dissolves the doctrine's own claim, since if "seer" is only another word for the momentary, conditioned act of seeing, there is no separate, permanent self left over to distinguish from it — exactly the conclusion the treatise wants and the doctrine cannot accept. He cites the treatise's own verse elsewhere: all conditioned things are momentary, unable to endure even an instant, let alone perform a further function — where a verb like "sees" simply names an activity currently occurring, provisionally spoken of as though an agent were behind it, with no such agent actually required.

25. Five Analogies for "Self as the Doer of Seeing" — All Fail

Having ruled out identifying the seer with the bare act of seeing, the treatise turns to the doctrine's other option — that seeing is something the self itself produces, like a seed producing a sprout — and tests this through five classical analogies, each collapsing in turn.

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若離於見等別立見者等相者,彼見等法為是我所成業?為是我所執具?若是我所成業者,若如種子,應是無常,不應道理。若言如陶師等,假立丈夫。此我應是無常,應是假立;而汝言是常是實,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

If the seer is posited apart from the act of seeing itself, then is the act of seeing something the self produces as its own action, or an instrument the self merely wields? If it is the self's own produced action — comparable to a seed producing a sprout — then, like a seed, the self should be impermanent; yet you claim it is permanent, so this makes no sense. If you compare it instead to a potter, a conventionally designated agent, then this self should likewise be impermanent and merely conventionally designated; yet you claim it is permanent and truly real, so this makes no sense either.

若言如具神通,假立丈夫。此我亦應無常假立,於諸所作隨意自在。此亦如前,不應道理。若言如地,應是無常。又所計我,無如地大顯了作業,故不應理。世間地大所作業用,顯了可得。謂持萬物令不墜下。我無是業顯了可得。

If you compare it to a person endowed with supernormal powers, likewise conventionally designated, able to freely accomplish whatever is willed, this too, as before, makes no sense. If you compare it to the earth element, then, like earth, it should be impermanent. Further, the self you posit has no function as clearly evident as the earth element's — this makes no sense. The earth element's function in the world is plainly evident: it holds all things up, keeping them from falling. The self has no such plainly evident function.

若如虛空,應非實有。唯於色無假立空故,不應道理。虛空雖是假有,而有業用分明可得;非所計我,故不應理。世間虛空所作業用分明可得者,謂由虛空故,得起往來屈伸等業。是故見等是我所成業,不應道理。

If you compare it to empty space, then it should not be truly, substantially existent, since space is merely a name conventionally applied wherever matter is absent — this makes no sense. And though space is only conventionally existent, its function is nonetheless plainly evident, unlike the self you posit — this too makes no sense. Space's plainly evident function in the world is this: because of space, coming and going, bending and stretching, and every such motion becomes possible. It is therefore unreasonable to hold that seeing and the rest are the self's own produced action.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi walks through all five analogies as a deliberate trap: whichever example the doctrine's holders reach for to explain how a self "produces" seeing, that very example ends up undermining the self's claimed permanence or its claimed function. A seed producing a sprout is itself impermanent, arising and perishing — borrow this image for the self, and the self must likewise be impermanent, contradicting the doctrine's central claim. A potter is merely a conventional name for a person performing a role, not a permanent metaphysical entity — the same problem recurs. A person with supernormal powers is equally an impermanent, conventionally designated being, however extraordinary their abilities. The earth element at least has an unmistakable, universally recognized function — holding all things up — but it is also plainly impermanent, subject to the same rule; and worse, the self, unlike earth, has no comparably obvious function anyone can actually point to and verify. And space, often invoked as an unchanging backdrop for motion, is in Buddhist analysis merely a conventional name for the mere absence of obstruction where matter is not — not a substantially existing thing at all — so borrowing it as an analogy for a "truly, permanently existing self" backfires doubly: it would make the self merely conventional rather than real, while still leaving the self, unlike space itself, without the plainly observable function even a conventional entity like space clearly has. Every route to explaining seeing as the self's own produced action, Cháng Bǎi concludes, ends up either stripping the self of its claimed permanence or leaving it with no demonstrable function at all — precisely the dilemma the treatise designed these five analogies to expose.

26. Fire Burns Without a Burner, and No Means of Knowledge Finds a Self Apart from Seeing

The treatise closes its "instrument" analogies and then delivers a final, sweeping verdict: a self posited entirely apart from the mark of "the seer" cannot be found by any of the three recognized means of knowledge at all.

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若言如火,則徒計於我,不應道理。何以故?如世間火,離能燒者亦自能燒故。若言離見者等相別有我者,則所計我相乖一切量,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

If you compare it to fire, then positing a self at all becomes pointless — this makes no sense. Why is this? Because worldly fire, even apart from any separate "burner" wielding it, burns entirely on its own. If, further, you posit a self entirely apart from the mark of "the seer" and the like, then the self you posit contradicts every means of valid knowledge — this makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi notes the fire analogy backfires precisely because fire needs no separate wielder to burn — it burns simply by being fire, exactly as seeing, on the treatise's own account, occurs simply as a conditioned event, with no separate self required to "hold" it the way a hand holds a sickle. Having now shown that self-as-agent, self-as-instrument, and every offered analogy for either all collapse, the treatise delivers its verdict on positing a bare self entirely apart from the seeing, hearing, and cognizing it was meant to explain: such a self satisfies none of the three recognized means of valid knowledge — it is never directly perceived, as the aggregates themselves are; it cannot be soundly inferred, since every attempted inference chain has just failed; and it is never actually taught by any reliable scriptural authority correctly understood. A claim answerable to none of the three measures a rational thinker actually uses to establish anything, Cháng Bǎi observes, is simply unfounded — not a modest, unprovable hypothesis, but a claim actively contradicted by how knowledge itself works.

27. Defilement and Purity Need No Self Behind Them Either

The treatise's third line of attack tests whether a self is needed to explain why a person is sometimes defiled and sometimes pure — and finds ordinary, selfless phenomena already do this job perfectly well.

Chinese Source

又我今問汝,隨汝意答。汝所計我,為與染淨相應而有染淨?為不與染淨相應而有染淨耶?若與染淨相應而有染淨者,於諸行中,有疾疫災橫及彼止息順益可得。即彼諸行,雖無有我,而說有染淨相應。如於外物,內身亦爾。雖無有我,染淨義成。故汝計我,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: does the self you posit have defilement and purity through association with defilement and purity, or without any such association at all? If through association, then note that among mere conditioned formations — with no self involved — one already finds sickness, calamity, and misfortune, as well as their cessation and benefit. Those very formations, though lacking any self, are already spoken of as associated with defilement and purity. As with external things, so too with this body: though there is no self, the meaning of defilement and purity is fully accounted for. Your positing a self for this purpose therefore makes no sense.

若不與染淨相應而有染淨者,離染淨相,我有染淨,不應道理。

If the self has defilement and purity without any association with defilement and purity at all, then a self having defilement and purity while entirely apart from the marks of defilement and purity makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this as one of the treatise's most intuitively persuasive arguments: look at any external, plainly selfless thing — a house, a field, a river — and it too passes through calamity and flourishing, damage and repair, with no self anywhere in the picture; a house needs no inner "self" to explain why it sometimes falls into disrepair and sometimes stands sound. Since the very same causal, conditioned structure equally accounts for a living body's sickness and health, affliction and well-being, positing an additional self to explain what mere conditions and karma already fully explain is simply superfluous — an extra entity invented to do work already done. And the alternative, a self somehow defiled or purified without any actual connection to defilement or purity at all, is simply incoherent on its face: how could something bear a quality it has no relationship to whatsoever? He cites the Xianyang Shengjiao Lun's own verse making the identical point: just as external things show gain and loss without any self, the body too, though empty of any real self, fully accounts for defilement and purity on its own.

28. Cyclic Flow, Like a River or a Lamp's Flame, Needs No Self to Sustain It

The fourth line of attack asks whether a self is needed to explain the continuous flow of birth-and-death itself — answered with three of Buddhism's most enduring images for change without a changer: a sprout, a river, a lamp's flame.

Chinese Source

又我今問汝,隨汝意答。汝所計我,為與流轉相相應而有流轉?為不與流轉相相應而有流轉及止息耶?若與流轉相相應而有流轉及止息者,於諸行中有五種流轉相可得。一、有因,二、可生,三、可滅,四、展轉相續生起,五、有變異。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: does the self you posit have cyclic flow through association with the mark of cyclic flow, or does it have flow and cessation without any such association? If through association, then among mere conditioned formations, five marks of cyclic flow are already found: first, having a cause; second, being capable of arising; third, being capable of ceasing; fourth, arising in continuous succession; fifth, undergoing change.

若諸行中,此流轉相可得,如於身、芽、河、燈、乘等流轉作用中,雖無有我,即彼諸行得有流轉及與止息,何須計我?若不與彼相相應而有流轉及止息者,則所計我無流轉相而有流轉止息,不應道理。

If these five marks of cyclic flow are already found among mere formations — as in the flowing activity of a body, a sprout, a river, a lamp's flame, or a moving vehicle — then, though no self is present, those very formations already have cyclic flow and cessation. What need, then, is there to posit a self at all? And if the self has flow and cessation without bearing the mark of flow at all, then a self with no mark of flow nonetheless having flow and cessation makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this as extending the previous argument from static defilement-and-purity to the dynamic process of cyclic existence itself: a sprout growing from a seed, a river's water endlessly flowing onward, a lamp's flame continuously renewing itself moment to moment, and a vehicle carrying passengers along a road — all five images classical Buddhism regularly uses precisely because each shows continuous, causally connected change with nothing permanent underlying it at all. Each satisfies all five marks of genuine flow (a cause behind it, capable of arising, capable of ceasing, continuing moment to moment in succession, and constantly undergoing change) without needing any fixed, unchanging "self" standing behind the process directing it. If a river can flow, and a flame can burn continuously, without any self, then a living being's own moment-to-moment continuity through birth and death needs no self either — the same causal succession fully explains it. And a self claimed to have flow and cessation while itself bearing none of these five marks is simply asserting a contradiction, calling something "flowing" that, by the doctrine's own definition, cannot change or move at all.

29. Experiencer, Agent, and Liberated One — Does the Self Need to Change to Be Named These?

The fifth line of attack turns to three roles the doctrine wants the self to occupy at once: the one who experiences feeling, the one who performs karma, and the one who eventually attains liberation.

Chinese Source

又我今問汝,隨汝意答。汝所計我,為由境界所生若苦若樂,及由思業,并由煩惱、隨煩惱等之所變異,說為受者、作者及解脫者?為不由彼變異,說為受者等耶?

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: is your posited self called an experiencer, an agent, and one liberated because it undergoes change through pain or pleasure arising from its objects, through the karma of volition, and through root afflictions and secondary afflictions — or is it called these without undergoing any such change at all?

若由彼變異者,是即諸行是受者、作者及解脫者,何須計我?設是我者,我應無常,不應道理。若不由彼變異者,我無變異,而是受者、作者及解脫者,不應道理。

If through such change, then it is the formations themselves that are the experiencer, agent, and liberated one — what need is there to posit a self at all? And were this changing thing to be called a self, the self would have to be impermanent, which makes no sense given your own position. If without any such change at all, then something undergoing no change whatsoever nonetheless being called an experiencer, an agent, and one liberated makes no sense either.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this as the identical dilemma-structure applied to three roles at once, since experiencing feeling, performing karma, and attaining liberation are all, by definition, processes of change — a being feels pain now and relief later, acts now and refrains later, is bound now and freed later. If the self only occupies these roles by actually undergoing these changes, then the changing formations are already doing all the explanatory work, and the self adds nothing except a demand that this changing thing also be called permanent — a straightforward contradiction. And if the self occupies these roles without changing at all, the claim collapses into simple incoherence: how could something utterly static ever be meaningfully called an experiencer, an agent, or a liberated being, all names for a role defined by undergoing a transition? Either way, Cháng Bǎi notes, the roles the doctrine most wants the self to play — the very roles that give Buddhist practice its whole point, since without an experiencer of suffering and an eventual attainer of liberation, why practice at all — turn out to require exactly the kind of change a permanent self can never have.

30. If the Self Is the Universal "Agent," Why Does Anything Else Need to Act at All?

The sixth line of attack presses a deceptively simple question: is the self the sole agent behind everything that happens, or merely one agent among others?

Chinese Source

又汝今應說自所欲。為唯於我說為作者?為亦於餘法說為作者?

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, you should now state what you actually intend: is only the self ever spoken of as the agent, or are other phenomena also spoken of as agents?

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi previews where this question is heading based on the treatise's established method: if the self alone is ever truly an "agent," then ordinary causal explanations — fire burning, water flowing, a seed sprouting, a hand grasping — would all have to be reinterpreted as the self secretly acting through them, an enormous and unmotivated revision of how the world plainly works; but if other, ordinary conditioned things are equally allowed to be called "agents" in their own right, the self loses its special status as the one indispensable actor behind every event, and the door reopens to explaining action through ordinary causes and conditions alone, exactly as the treatise has been arguing all along. He notes this question sets up the same pincer movement seen in every prior dilemma of this long refutation — whichever branch the self's defenders choose, the special metaphysical role a permanent self was meant to play turns out to be either wildly overextended or entirely dispensable.

31. Universal Agency Collapses, and Even the Word "I" Never Actually Names a Self

The treatise closes its sixth line of attack and adds a seventh: even ordinary language — calling someone by name, saying "I" and "you" — never actually points to a permanent self once examined closely.

Chinese Source

若唯於我,世間不應說火為燒者,光為照者。若亦於餘法,即於見等諸根說為作者,徒分別我,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

If only the self is ever an agent, then the world should never speak of fire as "the burner" or light as "the illuminator" — yet it plainly does. If other phenomena are also agents, then one may as well simply call the sense-faculties themselves — seeing and the rest — the agents; positing a separate self for this purpose serves no purpose and makes no sense.

又汝應說自意所欲。為唯於我建立於我?為亦於餘法建立於我?若唯於我者,世間不應於彼假說士夫身呼為德友、佛授等。若亦於餘法者,是則唯於諸行假說名我,何須更執別有我耶?何以故?諸世間人唯於假設士夫之身起有情想,立有情名,及說自他有差別故。

Further, you should state what you actually intend: is the word "self" applied only to a genuine self, or is it also applied to other phenomena? If only to a genuine self, then the world should never apply it to a merely conventionally designated person, calling them "Guṇamitra" or "Buddhadatta" and the like — yet it plainly does. If it is also applied to other phenomena, then "self" is simply a conventional name provisionally given to the formations themselves — what need, then, is there to insist on some further, separate self? Why is this? Because everyone in the world, without exception, forms the notion of "a being," gives it the name "being," and speaks of self and other as different, entirely on the basis of a merely conventionally designated person.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads both dilemmas as showing the same thing from two angles: ordinary usage already, and constantly, calls things other than a metaphysical self "agents" — fire burns, light illuminates — so restricting agency to the self alone contradicts everyday speech; and once other things are freely called agents, keeping a separate self around adds nothing, since the sense-faculties themselves already do the explanatory work. The seventh line makes the same point about naming: every name a person answers to — "Guṇamitra," "Buddhadatta," or simply "I" — is applied to a conventionally designated collection of the five aggregates, never to some further hidden entity behind them; if the doctrine insists the name applies only to a genuine metaphysical self, it contradicts how names actually get given and used in every ordinary conversation. Cháng Bǎi notes that this is not merely a technical grammatical point — it shows that the very way human language handles personal identity provides no evidence whatsoever for a permanent self, only for a useful, conventional label placed on an ever-changing stream of aggregates.

32. The Decisive Question: Is Believing in a Self Wholesome, or Not?

The treatise's eighth and final line of attack turns from logic to soteriology directly — asking whether belief in a self is itself a wholesome or unwholesome view, and showing that either answer dooms the doctrine.

Chinese Source

又汝何所欲?計我之見為善?為不善耶?若是善者,何為極愚癡人深起我見,不由方便,率爾而起?能令眾生怖畏解脫,又能增長諸惡過失?不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: is the view positing a self wholesome, or unwholesome? If wholesome, then why do even the most foolish beings hold this view most deeply, spontaneously and without any deliberate effort at all? Why does it make beings dread liberation itself, and cause every kind of unwholesome fault to grow? None of this makes sense for a genuinely wholesome view.

若不善者,不應說正及非顛倒。若是邪倒,所計之我體是實有,不應道理。

If unwholesome, then you should not go on calling it correct and undistorted. And if it is indeed a distorted, mistaken view, then insisting that the self it posits truly, substantially exists makes no sense at all.

又汝何所欲?無我之見為善?為不善耶?若言是善,於彼常住實有我上見無有我,而是善性,非顛倒計,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: is the view of no-self wholesome, or unwholesome? If you say it is wholesome, then seeing no self within what you call a permanent, truly existing self is itself wholesome and not a distorted view — which means your own belief in a self must be the distorted one; this contradicts your own position.

若言不善,而一切智者之所宣說,精勤方便之所生起,令諸眾生不怖解脫,能速證得白淨之果,諸惡過失如實對治,不應道理。

If you say it is unwholesome, then note: it is precisely what every possessor of complete wisdom teaches; it arises only through diligent effort and skillful means; it frees beings from dread of liberation; it swiftly brings about pure, wholesome results; and it genuinely counteracts every unwholesome fault. None of this fits an unwholesome view — so this makes no sense either.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this as the treatise's most searching test yet, because it asks not merely whether the self exists logically, but what kind of view believing in it actually is. If self-view were genuinely wholesome, it should require cultivation, the way other wholesome states do — yet it is precisely the most foolish, unreflective beings who fall into it most naturally and instantly, with no training required at all; a genuinely wholesome view should draw beings toward liberation, yet self-view is exactly what makes beings dread liberation, since liberation means the self's own cherished continuity coming to an end; and a genuinely wholesome view should reduce fault, yet self-view is the very root from which greed, anger, and every self-protective, self-promoting vice grows. None of the marks of a wholesome view fit — so self-view must be unwholesome, a distorted view; but a distorted view, by definition, does not correctly grasp how things truly are, so its object (a permanent, real self) cannot be relied upon as truly existing either.

The mirror question about no-self view then confirms the same conclusion from the opposite direction: if no-self view is admitted to be wholesome, then it correctly sees there is no self within what self-view mistakenly calls permanent and real — meaning self-view itself must be the distorted one. And if no-self view is instead called unwholesome, this directly contradicts everything actually true of it: it is taught by every fully awakened teacher without exception; it is reached only through sustained, disciplined practice, never carelessly; it removes the very fear of liberation that self-view instills; it is what actually brings about the pure fruits of the noble path, from stream-entry through unsurpassed awakening; and it is the direct antidote to every affliction rooted in self-concern. Since no-self view plainly has every mark of a genuinely wholesome, liberating teaching, and self-view has every mark of a foolish, binding one, Cháng Bǎi concludes this eighth and final line of attack settles the whole doctrine — not merely as logically incoherent, but as the very view the entire Buddhist path exists to overturn.

33. The Final Dilemma, and Ten Angles Together Close the Case Against a Self

One last dilemma — does the sense of "I" come from the self's own nature, or merely from a mistaken view? — closes the refutation, and the treatise then gathers all ten angles (its two original reasons, and the eight ways of testing where a self could be posited) into a single verdict.

Chinese Source

又汝意云何?為即我性自計有我?為由我見耶?若即我性自計有我者,應一切時無無我覺。若由我見者,雖無實我,由我見力故,於諸行中妄謂有我,是故汝計定實有我,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually think: does the self's own nature give rise to the notion of self, or does self-view give rise to it? If the self's own nature gives rise to it, then there should never be, at any time, a realization of no-self — yet many do realize this. If self-view gives rise to it, then, though there is no real self, the mere force of self-view causes one to mistakenly suppose a self exists within the formations — and so your insistence that a self truly, definitely exists makes no sense.

如是不覺為先而起彼覺故,思覺為先見有所作故,於諸蘊中假施設故,由於彼相安立為有故,建立雜染及清淨故,建立流轉及止息故,假立受者、作者、解脫者故,施設有作者故,施設言說故,施設見故,計有實我皆不應理。

Thus — whether by the spontaneous sense arising without prior deliberation; by deliberate intention preceding action; by mere provisional designation upon the aggregates; by positing existence through the mark of "the seer"; by positing defilement and purity; by positing cyclic flow and cessation; by positing an experiencer, agent, and liberated one; by positing an agent generally; by positing verbal convention; or by positing a view — through every one of these approaches, holding that a real self truly exists does not accord with reason.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads the final dilemma as closing off the very last hiding place: if belief in a self simply flows automatically from the self's own real nature, no one should ever be able to see through it to no-self — yet countless practitioners across history have done exactly that, directly contradicting the claim. If instead the belief arises merely from a distorted view — self-view — projected onto the aggregates, then the belief has been explained entirely without requiring any actual self to exist; it is simply what a mistaken cognitive habit produces, the same kind of error, on a grander metaphysical scale, as mistaking a stump for a person in the dark.

He treats the ten-angle summary as remarkable for its sheer comprehensiveness: two reasons for believing in a self, and eight entirely distinct ways of testing where such a self could possibly be located or grounded — spontaneous perception, deliberate action, the aggregates themselves, the seer, defilement and purity, cyclic flow, the roles of experiencer/agent/liberated-one, agency in general, ordinary language, and view itself — every one of them independently collapsing. No stone, he notes, has been left unturned; this is very likely the most exhaustive single refutation of any view in the entire treatise, fitting for what Buddhism regards as the single most consequential error a mind can make.

34. What "Self" Actually Means: A Convenient Fiction, Not a Real Thing

Having spent the whole doctrine in refutation, the treatise now states its own positive teaching: what the word "self" genuinely refers to, why the Buddha still uses it constantly despite there being no real self at all, and how this closes the fourth of sixteen doctrines.

Chinese Source

又我今當說第一義我相。所言我者,唯於諸法假立為有,非實有我。然此假我,不可說言與彼諸法異不異性。勿謂此我是實有體,或彼諸法即我性相。

Ru-Yi Translation

I shall now state the ultimate mark of the self. What is called "self" is merely provisionally posited upon phenomena as existing — it is not a truly, substantially existing self. Yet this provisional self cannot be said to be either the same as, or different from, those phenomena. One should not suppose this self has a truly existing substance, nor suppose that those phenomena themselves simply are the self's own nature.

又此假我是無常相,是非恆相,非安保相,是變壞相,生起法相,老病死相,唯諸法相,唯苦惱相。故薄伽梵說:苾芻當知!於諸法中,假立有我。此我無常無恆,不可安保,是變壞法,如是廣說。

Further, this provisional self bears the mark of impermanence; the mark of not enduring; the mark of being insecure; the mark of being subject to change and decay; the mark of arising only as a dependent phenomenon; the mark of aging, sickness, and death; the mark of being merely a succession of conditioned phenomena; and the mark of being merely suffering. Hence the Blessed One said: "Monks, you should know that within phenomena, a self is provisionally posited. This self is impermanent, does not endure, is not secure, is subject to change" — and so on in full detail.

由四因故,於諸行中假設有我。一、為令世間言說易故;二、為欲隨順諸世間故;三、為欲斷除謂定無我諸怖畏故;四、為宣說自他成就功德、成就過失,令起決定信解心故。是故執有我論,非如理說。

For four reasons, a self is provisionally posited upon the formations. First, to make worldly communication easy. Second, to accord with worldly convention. Third, to remove the fear that arises from thinking there is definitely no self at all. Fourth, to teach how beings, oneself and others, come to possess virtues or faults, so as to give rise to firm, settled conviction. It is for this reason that the doctrine holding a real self to exist is not a soundly reasoned teaching.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads the treatise's positive teaching as threading a careful middle path between two opposite errors: saying the provisional self is simply identical to the aggregates would wrongly grant it a real, findable substance; saying it is entirely different from the aggregates would wrongly suggest some further hidden entity exists apart from them. Instead, "self" is a genuinely useful label placed on the aggregates' own ceaseless flow — real enough to talk about, yet never a substantial thing findable anywhere within or behind that flow. He walks through the eight marks of this provisional self as a direct rebuttal, point for point, of the doctrine's own opening claim: where the doctrine wanted a self that is permanent, enduring, secure, and unchanging, the actual (provisional) self is impermanent, does not endure, is insecure, and constantly changes; where the doctrine wanted something free of birth and death, the provisional self arises dependently and is inseparable from aging, sickness, and death; and where the doctrine wanted a real, substantial thing, the provisional self is nothing more than a causally connected succession of suffering-laden phenomena.

He treats the four reasons for still using the word "self" as showing real pedagogical wisdom rather than inconsistency: ordinary communication would grind to a halt without it, since no one could refer to themselves or others at all; it meets ordinary people where they already are, since everyone naturally speaks this way regardless of philosophical training; it protects newcomers to the teaching from the genuine terror that a bald, sudden "there is no self at all" can provoke in someone not yet ready to hear it; and it lets the Buddha meaningfully praise a virtuous person's attainment or warn against a faulty person's course, building the confident understanding a student needs before they can even approach the deeper truth that no fixed self is there to begin with. With this, the treatise's positive teaching is complete, and the fourth of sixteen doctrines — by far the longest and most thoroughly argued of them all — formally closes: "the doctrine holding a real self to exist is not a soundly reasoned teaching." The treatise turns next to the fifth: the doctrine positing permanence.

35. The Fifth Doctrine: A Self and World That Are Simply Permanent

The treatise turns to a doctrine closely related to the fourth, positing not merely a self but a permanent self and an equally permanent world — a claim it will show collapses once the earlier refutation of self itself is recalled.

Chinese Source

計常論者,謂如有一,若沙門、若婆羅門,起如是見,立如是論:我及世間皆實常住,非作所作,非化所化,不可損害,積聚而住,如伊師迦。

Ru-Yi Translation

The doctrine positing permanence: there are certain renunciants or brahmins who hold such a view and establish such a doctrine — that the self and the world are both truly permanent, neither made by any maker nor transformed by any transformer, incapable of being harmed, standing firm as an assembly of accumulated matter and mind, like the Īṣīkā reed-grass hill near Rājagṛha, known for its unusual firmness.

謂計前際說一切常者、說一分常者,及計後際說有想者、說無想者、說非想非非想者,復有計諸極微是常住者,作如是計。

This is held by those who, examining the prior extremity of time, speak of everything as permanent, or of a portion as permanent; by those who, examining the latter extremity of time, speak of a persisting perception, of no perception, or of neither perception nor non-perception; and, further, by those who hold that atomic particles themselves are permanent.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi maps this doctrine's variants against the classical sixty-two views: broadly, believers in universal permanence split into those who look backward (claiming the self and world have always existed unchanged, either entirely or in part) and those who look forward (projecting the self's permanence into some future perceptual state — persisting ordinary perception, no perception at all, or the subtlest neither-perception-nor-non-perception), plus a wholly separate group who locate permanence not in the self but in physical atoms themselves, the indestructible building-blocks from which every changing gross object is supposedly assembled. He notes the doctrine's central image — the Īṣīkā hill near Rājagṛha, proverbial in classical India for the unusual toughness of its reed-grass, tough enough to resist even fire — was meant to convey a similarly indestructible substrate underlying self and world alike, immune to whatever superficial change appears on its surface.

36. Why They Believed This: Misread Meditative Memory, and Mistaking Atoms for Ultimate Reality

The treatise traces this doctrine to specific meditative experiences — genuine attainments of memory of past lives and clairvoyance — misinterpreted for lack of the insight into dependent origination that would have prevented the error.

Chinese Source

此中計前際者,謂或依下中上靜慮起宿住隨念,不善緣起,故於過去諸行,但唯憶念,不如實知,計過去世以為前際,發起常見。或依天眼,計現在世以為前際,於諸行剎那生滅流轉不如實知。

Ru-Yi Translation

As for those who look to the prior extremity of time: some, relying on lesser, middling, or superior meditative concentration, give rise to memory of past abodes, and, being unskilled regarding dependent origination, merely recollect past formations without genuinely understanding them, and so posit the past as a prior extremity, giving rise to a view of permanence. Others, relying on the divine eye, take the present as a prior extremity, failing to genuinely understand that formations arise and cease moment to moment in continuous flow.

又見諸識流轉相續,從此世間至彼世間無斷絕故,發起常見。或見梵王隨意成立,或見四大種變異,或見諸識變異。

Further, some, seeing consciousness flow on in unbroken succession from this world to the next, give rise to a view of permanence on that basis. Others, seeing Brahmā establish himself entirely by his own will, conclude he alone is permanent. Others, seeing the four great elements undergo change while consciousness seems not to, conclude consciousness alone is permanent. Others, seeing consciousness undergo change while the four great elements seem not to, conclude the elements alone are permanent.

又計極微是常住者,以依世間靜慮起如是見。由不如實知緣起故,而計有為先,有果集起,離散為先,有果壞滅。由此因緣,彼謂從眾微性,麤物果生,漸析麤物,乃至微住;是故麤物無常,極微是常。

Further, those who hold atomic particles to be permanent arrive at this view by relying on worldly meditative concentration. Not genuinely understanding dependent origination, they suppose that atoms exist first, and gross objects then arise as their combined result; and that when atoms disperse, the gross object that resulted is destroyed. On this basis, they hold that gross objects arise from an assembly of atomic particles, and that analyzing a gross object down and down eventually reaches the abiding atom itself — and so conclude that gross objects are impermanent while the atom alone is permanent.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this entire doctrine as a case study in genuine meditative attainment going wrong for want of correct view: memory of past lives through the lesser, middling, and superior grades of concentration is a real power, letting a meditator recall twenty, forty, or eighty eons of their own past existences, but recalling a long unbroken chain of rebirth is not the same as understanding it — mistaking that chain's mere continuity for one single, unchanging thing persisting throughout is precisely where the error creeps in, since dependent origination alone explains how each life connects to the next without requiring anything permanent underneath. The divine eye's clairvoyant vision of beings dying here and being reborn there, similarly real, gets misread the same way: momentary arising and ceasing looks, without the analytical insight to see it correctly, exactly like one continuous unchanging thing extending into the future.

He walks through the four "partial permanence" variants as different observers noticing different halves of the same picture and drawing opposite conclusions: seeing consciousness carry on unbroken from world to world, some concluded consciousness alone is permanent; witnessing what appeared to be Brahmā's own unaided self-creation at the start of a new cosmic age (not realizing, per the classical creation myth already told in fascicle 4, that he himself is merely the first being to descend and take rebirth there, mistakenly believed by later arrivals to be their creator), some concluded Brahmā alone is permanent; seeing the four material elements visibly change while subtle consciousness seemed constant, some concluded consciousness alone persists; and seeing consciousness visibly shift while the elements seemed to persist merely rearranged, others concluded the reverse.

The atomists, meanwhile, mistook something Cháng Bǎi treats as a purely conceptual construct — the "atom," arrived at only by mentally analyzing matter down to its theoretical limit, never actually observed as a real, independently existing thing — for a genuine, permanent substance underlying all change; not understanding that a physical mass's growth and shrinkage is itself simply dependent arising governed by conditions and seeds, they concluded gross matter merely borrows temporary shape from indestructible atomic building-blocks that alone truly persist.

37. The Efficient Refutation: Permanence Is Just "Self" Again, Already Defeated

Rather than repeat its exhaustive ten-angle refutation, the treatise makes a single, economical move: permanence-of-self is merely a further specification of self, and self itself has already been shown not to exist at all.

Chinese Source

此中計前際後際常住論者,是我執論差別相所攝故。我論已破,當知我差別相論亦已破訖。

Ru-Yi Translation

As for those who, looking to the prior or the latter extremity of time, hold a doctrine of permanence: this is included among the differentiated forms of the doctrine positing a self. Since the doctrine of self has already been refuted, it should be understood that its differentiated forms have thereby already been refuted as well.

又我今問汝,隨汝意答。宿住之念,為取諸蘊?為取我耶?若取蘊者,執我及世間是常,不應道理。

Further, I now ask you, answer as you see fit: does memory of past abodes take the aggregates as its object, or does it take a self as its object? If it takes the aggregates as its object, then insisting that a self and world are thereby proven permanent makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi calls this move a model of philosophical economy: since "the self is permanent" logically presupposes "there is a self" in the first place, and the treatise has already spent its longest and most exhaustive doctrine proving no such self can be found anywhere, the entire permanence claim falls the moment its foundation is recalled — nothing further strictly needs to be argued. He notes the treatise nonetheless adds one more direct blow specific to this doctrine's own favorite evidence, memory of past lives: such memory, examined honestly, only ever recalls specific aggregates — a particular body, particular feelings, particular experiences belonging to a past existence — never a bare, contentless "self" apart from any of these. Since what is actually remembered is always the (impermanent) aggregates and never a separate permanent self, using this memory as proof of the self's permanence gets the evidence exactly backward — it proves impermanence, not permanence, since what is recalled is precisely a life that has since ended and been replaced by another.

38. Memory Recalls Only the Aggregates, and No Single Consciousness Stays Constant

Chinese Source

若取我者,憶念過去如是名等諸有情類,我曾於彼如是名、如是姓,乃至廣說,不應道理。又汝意云何?緣彼現前和合色境眼識起時,於餘不現不和合境所餘諸識,為滅?為轉?

Ru-Yi Translation

If it takes a self as its object, then recalling that beings in the past bore such-and-such a name, such-and-such a lineage, and so on in full detail, while claiming "I was that one" — this makes no sense, since what is recalled is always these particular, changing details, never a bare self. Further, what do you think: when eye-consciousness arises, taking as its object present, conjoined visible form, do the remaining forms of consciousness — not presently active, their objects not conjoined — cease, or do they continue?

若言滅者,滅壞之識而計為常,不應道理。若言轉者,由一境界,依一切時一切識起,不應道理。

If you say they cease, then calling a consciousness that has ceased and perished "permanent" makes no sense. If you say they continue, then having a single object give rise to every kind of consciousness at every single moment makes no sense either — this plainly contradicts direct experience.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi notes the memory-argument closes decisively: the classical eightfold description of what past-life memory actually recalls (a name, a lineage, food eaten, feelings experienced, a lifespan, and so on) shows plainly that memory always takes changing particulars as its object, never a bare, contentless self — using it as evidence for a permanent self gets the evidence backward. He then turns to the "consciousness alone is permanent" variant: at any given moment only one sense-consciousness is actually active, matching its own present, conjoined object (eye-consciousness when form is present, and so on); the other five must, at that moment, either have ceased or still somehow be continuing. If they have ceased, a ceased and perished thing cannot be called permanent; if they somehow continue regardless, then a single object should trigger every kind of consciousness simultaneously, which plainly does not happen — no one hears colors or sees sounds. Either way, no single "consciousness" can be shown to persist unchanged behind the six sense-consciousnesses' constant coming and going.

39. Perception and Feeling Constantly Vary — So Whatever Bears Them Cannot Be Changeless

Chinese Source

又汝何所欲?所執之我,由想所作及受所作,為有變異?為無變異?若言有者,計彼世間及我常住,不應道理。若言無者,有一想已,復種種想,復有小想及無量想,不應道理。又純有樂已,復純有苦,復有苦有樂,有不苦不樂,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: does the self you posit, insofar as it is shaped by perception and by feeling, undergo change, or not? If it does, then claiming the world and the self are thereby permanent makes no sense. If it does not, then having a single, undifferentiated perception at one time and manifold perceptions at another — narrow perception here, boundless perception there — makes no sense. And having purely pleasant feeling at one time, purely painful feeling at another, a mixture of both at a third, and neither pleasant nor painful at a fourth, likewise makes no sense for something that supposedly never changes.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi ties this to the doctrine's "later extremity" variant, which projects the self's permanence forward onto some future perceptual state rather than backward into memory. He catalogues, following the Abhidharma-mahāvibhāṣā, four grades of perception (single and undifferentiated, as in the three lower formless spheres; manifold, as in the desire and form realms; narrow, when a limited body or object is taken as self; and boundless, when self is identified with something taken as pervading everywhere) and four grades of feeling (purely pleasant, as in the first three dhyānas; purely painful, as in the hells; mixed, as among ghosts, animals, humans, and desire-realm gods; and neither pleasant nor painful, from the fourth dhyāna up through the peak of existence). Since a being's perception and feeling genuinely shift as it moves between realms and states — sometimes narrow, sometimes boundless, sometimes purely painful, sometimes free of both pain and pleasure — any self identified with perception and feeling must itself be undergoing exactly the same variation, which directly contradicts the doctrine's own insistence that this self remains forever unchanged.

40. Bounded or Boundless? Four More Variants, and a Glance at Seven Annihilationist Cousins

The treatise catalogues a further family of variants — is the permanent self bounded in extent, or boundless? — before briefly noting how seven annihilationist views, a doctrine still to come later in its own right, relate to this same territory.

Chinese Source

又若見少色、少非色者,彼計有邊。若見彼無量者,彼計有無邊。若復遍見,而色分少、非色分無量,或色分無量、非色分少者,彼計亦有邊亦無邊。若為對治此故,但由文異,不由義異,而起執者,彼計非有邊非無邊。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, those who see a limited amount of form, and a limited amount of what is formless, hold the self to be bounded. Those who see these as boundless hold the self to be boundless. Those who see form as limited but the formless as boundless, or form as boundless but the formless as limited, hold the self to be both bounded and boundless. And those who, merely to answer this last position with different wording rather than any different meaning, arrive at a further position hold the self to be neither bounded nor boundless.

或計解脫之我,遠離二種。

Some, further, hold that the self, once liberated, is entirely free of both these categories.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi notes this fourfold bounded/boundless scheme belongs to the same family the treatise will later treat as its own ninth doctrine in full, introduced here as a natural offshoot of debating what a "permanent" self and world are actually like in extent. The closing line — a self that, once liberated, transcends both bounded and boundless — he links to seven variants of a different, still-later doctrine of annihilation: each holds that a being's self, tied to a specific level of rebirth (the coarse elements, a desire-realm heaven, a form-realm heaven, or one of the four formless spheres up to the peak of existence), is completely and finally extinguished at death from that level, with nothing whatsoever continuing afterward — a kind of "liberation" achieved simply by ceasing to exist. He flags this as the treatise weaving several related wrong views together where classical Indian thought itself treated them as overlapping, before returning to finish the case against the atomists.

41. Refuting the Atomists: Observation Finds No Permanent Atom, Anywhere

The treatise turns to the doctrine's other main branch — that indivisible atoms alone are permanent while the gross objects built from them are not — opening with a dilemma about whether this claim was ever actually observed at all.

Chinese Source

又計極微常住論者,我今問汝,隨汝意答。汝為觀察計極微常?為不觀察計彼常耶?若不觀察者,離慧觀察,而定計常,不應道理。若言已觀察者,違諸量故,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, to those who hold atoms to be permanent: I now ask you, answer as you see fit — do you hold atoms to be permanent through actual observation, or without any observation at all? If without observation, then reaching a firm conclusion of permanence apart from any discerning examination makes no sense. If through observation, then your conclusion contradicts every recognized means of valid knowledge — this too makes no sense.

又汝何所欲?諸微塵性為由細故,計彼是常?為由與麤果物其相異故,計彼常耶?若由細者,離散損減,轉復羸劣,而言是常,不應道理。

Further, what do you actually intend: do you hold atoms permanent because they are subtle, or because their characteristic differs from the gross object they compose? If because they are subtle, then note that once dispersed and diminished, they grow only weaker and less capable — yet you call precisely this weakening, diminishing thing "permanent," which makes no sense.

若言由相異故者,是則極微超過地水火風之相,不同種類相故,而言能生彼類果,不應道理。又彼極微,更無異相可得,故不中理。

If because their characteristic differs from the gross object, then atoms would have to lie entirely outside the character of earth, water, fire, and wind altogether, belonging to a wholly different kind — yet you also claim they produce precisely that kind of result, which makes no sense. And, further, no such distinct characteristic for atoms is ever actually found apart from the gross matter itself — so this does not hold up either.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats the opening dilemma as decisive on its own: an unobserved, unexamined conclusion is simply dogma, while an "observed" conclusion that no recognized means of knowledge — direct perception, inference, or reliable scriptural authority — actually supports is simply false; atoms, notoriously, have never been directly perceived by anyone, ancient or modern. He reads the second pair as testing the atomists' own stated reason for permanence: if subtlety alone makes something permanent, then note that a scattered, diminished collection of atoms is, if anything, weaker and less capable than before — hardly the profile of something permanent, which should if anything grow more stable, not more depleted. And if instead it is their sheer difference in kind from gross matter that grounds their permanence, this creates a fatal tension: atoms would have to be so categorically unlike earth, water, fire, and wind that they could never actually produce them at all, since a cause must share some real relation with its effect — yet the whole atomist theory depends on atoms doing precisely that. Worse, he notes, no one has ever actually found this supposedly distinct atomic characteristic anywhere apart from ordinary gross matter itself — it is a purely theoretical posit, never an observed reality.

42. Whether Identical or Different, Dispersed or Combined — Atoms Still Fail

The treatise presses further with a cascading set of dilemmas: is the gross object identical to, or different from, the atoms composing it? Do atoms produce it while dispersed, or only once assembled?

Chinese Source

又汝何所欲?從諸極微所起麤物,為不異相?為異相耶?若言不異相者,由與彼因無差別故,亦應是常;是則應無因果決定,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: is the gross object arising from atoms identical in character to them, or different? If identical, then since it has no distinguishing feature apart from its cause, it too should be permanent — yet this would erase any determinate distinction between cause and effect at all, which makes no sense.

若異相者,汝意云何?為從離散極微,麤物得生?為從聚集耶?若言從離散者,應一切時一切果生;是則應無因果決定,不應道理。

If different, then what do you think: does the gross object arise from atoms while they are dispersed, or only once they are gathered together? If while dispersed, then every result should arise at every single moment without exception — since dispersed atoms are, on your view, permanently and constantly present — which again erases any determinate cause-and-effect relation, and makes no sense.

若從聚集者,汝意云何?彼麤果物從極微生時,為不過彼形質之量?為過彼形質量耶?若言不過彼形質量者,從形質分物,生形質有分物,不應道理。

If only once gathered together, then consider: does the resulting gross object exceed the spatial extent of its constituent atoms, or not? If it does not exceed it, then something imperceptible and indivisible (the atom) is said to produce something perceptible and divisible (the gross object) while occupying exactly the same space — this makes no sense.

若言過者,諸極微體無細分故,不可分析,所生麤物亦應是常,亦不中理。若復說言,有諸極微,本無今起者,是則計極微常,不應道理。

If it does exceed it, then since atoms, by definition, have no further parts and cannot be analyzed any further, the gross object produced beyond that extent should, by the same reasoning, likewise be permanent — this too fails to hold up. And if you then say that, in the space beyond, further atoms simply arise where none existed before, this directly contradicts your own claim that atoms are permanent — which makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats this cascading sequence as trapping the atomist theory from every conceivable angle. If the gross object is simply identical to its atoms, cause and effect collapse into one undifferentiated thing, and the supposedly impermanent gross object should be just as permanent as its atoms — an outright contradiction. If different, a further question opens: do dispersed, scattered atoms already produce the gross object, or only assembled ones? Dispersed atoms, being permanently and everywhere present on the atomist's own account, should produce their result constantly and everywhere, which plainly does not happen. Assembled atoms fare no better: either the resulting object occupies no more space than its atoms (making it, absurdly, just as imperceptible and indivisible as they supposedly are) or it occupies more space than they do — but atoms, defined as having no further parts, cannot account for that additional space at all, forcing the theory to invent yet more atoms springing up from nowhere in that extra space, directly undermining the claim that atoms are eternally fixed and unchanging in number. Every branch of this careful, methodical dilemma-tree, Cháng Bǎi notes, ends the same way — with the atom's claimed permanence dissolving the moment its actual relationship to ordinary, observable matter is examined closely.

43. No Analogy Fits, and Gross Objects Only Ever Appear Because Someone Needs Them

The atomists' last resorts — comparing atoms assembling into objects to a seed sprouting or a potter shaping clay, and finally insisting the whole process runs independent of any living being's needs — both collapse in turn.

Chinese Source

又汝何所欲?彼諸極微起造麤物,為如種子等?為如陶師等耶?若言如種子等者,應如種子,體是無常。若言如陶師等者,彼諸極微應有思慮,如陶師等,不應道理。若不如種等及陶師等者,是則同喻不可得故,不應道理。

Ru-Yi Translation

Further, what do you actually intend: do atoms give rise to gross objects the way a seed gives rise to a sprout, or the way a potter shapes clay? If like a seed, then, like a seed, atoms should themselves be impermanent. If like a potter, then atoms would have to be capable of deliberation, the way a potter is — which makes no sense. And if neither analogy applies, then no comparable example whatsoever can be found to support your claim — which likewise makes no sense.

又汝意云何?諸外物起,為由有情?為不爾耶?若言由有情者,彼外麤物由有情生,所依細物不由有情,不應道理。誰復於彼制其功能?若言不由有情者,是則無用,而外物生,不應道理。

Further, what do you think: does the arising of external objects depend on sentient beings, or not? If it does, then while the gross external object depends on beings for its production, the subtle atoms it rests on supposedly do not — this makes no sense; who, then, governs the atoms' own capacity to produce it? If it does not depend on beings at all, then external objects would have to arise with no purpose or need behind them whatsoever — which likewise makes no sense.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi treats the failed analogies as the atomists running out of road: a seed is itself impermanent, undermining the very permanence atoms are supposed to have; a potter deliberately shapes clay according to a plan, but no one seriously credits atoms with intention or forethought; and if neither comparison actually fits, the claim that atoms "give rise to" gross objects has no supporting example at all in ordinary experience — a bare assertion with nothing behind it. He reads the final argument as grounding the whole discussion back in ordinary observation: every gross object anyone actually encounters — a house, a pot, a garment — exists because some sentient being needed it and made it; if atoms alone, without reference to any being's need, spontaneously assembled into gross matter, objects should appear constantly and pointlessly everywhere, which plainly does not happen, while if their arising does depend on beings, then the "permanent, independently existing atom" has quietly become just as dependent on conditions as the gross object it was meant to explain — collapsing the very distinction the whole doctrine rests on.

44. Genuine Permanence Requires No Change at All, Anywhere, Ever — and Doctrine Five, and Fascicle 6, Close

Having refuted every version of the doctrine, the treatise closes with its own positive teaching: what real, unqualified permanence would actually require — a standard nothing in saṃsāra, self or world, atom or aggregate, can ever satisfy. This closes both the fifth doctrine and, with the source text itself ending here, the whole of fascicle 6.

Chinese Source

我今當說常住之相。若一切時無變異相,若一切種無變異相,若自然無變異相,若由他無變異相。又無生相,當知是常住相。

Ru-Yi Translation

I shall now state the true mark of permanence. It is the mark of undergoing no change at any time whatsoever; the mark of undergoing no change in any respect whatsoever; the mark of being naturally, inherently unchanging; and the mark of never being changed by anything else. Further, the mark of never arising at all should likewise be understood as the mark of true permanence.

Reading note — after Master Cháng Bǎi

Master Cháng Bǎi reads this closing standard as devastatingly simple once stated: genuine permanence would require a thing to be utterly unchanging across the whole of past, present, and future; unchanging in every single respect — no shift in feeling, no rise of a wholesome or unwholesome thought, no flicker of affliction; unchanging by its own inherent nature, needing no external cause to keep it so; unchanging no matter what outside forces act upon it; and, beyond even all of this, never having arisen in the first place, since only what never began can never end. He notes only one thing in the entire Buddhist cosmos actually meets every one of these five marks together: nirvāṇa itself, the uncompounded, unconditioned reality utterly beyond arising and ceasing. Neither the self nor the world the doctrine's holders describe, and certainly no meditative memory, no consciousness, no perception or feeling, and no theoretical atom, comes anywhere close — every one of them arises, changes, and depends on conditions, precisely disqualifying each from ever being called truly permanent. With this positive standard stated, the fifth of sixteen doctrines — by far the most elaborate treatment in the fascicle apart from the doctrine of self itself, folding in along the way the related questions of bounded/unbounded self and annihilation at death — comes to its close.

Fascicle 6 Complete

This closes fascicle 6 of Ru-Yi's translation. It opened continuing directly from fascicle 5's mid-sentence break, into unsound reasoning attention's systematic survey of sixteen non-Buddhist doctrines current in the Buddha's own India — a level of sustained, named, fair-minded engagement with rival philosophy and religion unmatched anywhere else in the treatise so far. The fascicle worked through five of these sixteen doctrines in full: effect existing within cause and its close cousin, manifestation through condition (refuted together with a genuinely useful positive teaching on the many reasons a real thing can fail to appear); the claim that past and future truly, substantially exist — directed partly at a rival school within Buddhism itself, and closed with a thirty-six-mark practical framework for how a practitioner should actually regard what has not yet come, what is happening now, and what has already passed.

The fascicle then devoted well over a third of its entire length to the doctrine positing a self — Buddhism's classic fourfold test of whether a self is identical to, within, apart from, or unrelated to the five aggregates, cascading through dozens of further dilemmas, and closing with the decisive soteriological question of whether self-view itself is a wholesome or unwholesome view, before stating the treatise's own positive account of "self" as a genuinely useful convention with no substantial reality behind it. It closed with the doctrine positing permanence — tracing the claim to specific meditative experiences (memory of past lives, clairvoyance) misread for lack of insight into dependent origination, folding in along the way the related questions of a bounded or boundless self and of annihilation at death, refuting a separate atomist branch through a long cascade of dilemmas, and ending with the treatise's own uncompromising standard for what genuine permanence would actually require — a standard only nirvāṇa itself can meet.

Fascicle 6's source text runs out here, with twelve doctrines still entirely untouched — sudden retribution for past deeds, sovereign lordship as creator, harming as the true Dharma, the fully worked-out doctrines of having or lacking limits and of annihilation (each already previewed in passing above), evasive equivocation about the deathless, positing no cause, emptiness, false supremacy, false purity, and false auspiciousness. As with every fascicle boundary since the fourth, this is simply where the physical scroll divides, not a natural stopping point in the treatise's own argument; fascicle 7 continues directly from here.