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Is the Self Awareness, or Does It Merely Know?

Refuting the Self破神品第二

Chapter One ended by saying that nothing has a nature of its own. Chapter Two opens with the Outsider refusing that flatly, and refusing it with the one thing he is surest of: himself. Two schools step forward — Sāṃkhya, with its twenty-five principles and a self whose very mark is awareness; Vaiśeṣika, with a self that is not awareness but merely conjoined with knowledge, as a man is conjoined with an ox he owns. The rest of this page is those two positions taken apart, and the instruments are humble: an ox, a horse, a length of black cloth, a walking staff.

Translator: Ru-Yi Meditation Center Source: Taishō T30, no. 1569, 百論 Āryadeva (提婆), with Vasu's commentary (婆藪開士釋) Kumārajīva, revised 404 CE Reading notes: Ru-Yi, original

1. Two Schools State Their Case

The Outsider does not begin with an argument. He begins by laying his systems on the table — first the whole Sāṃkhya cosmology in a single breath, then Vaiśeṣika's evidence for a self, which is not cosmological at all but a list of ordinary observations. It is the fullest statement of a rival position anywhere in this treatise, and it is quoted without distortion, which is what makes what follows worth reading.

Chinese Source · 破神品第二

外曰:不應言一切法空無相,神等諸法有故(修妬路)。迦毘羅、優樓迦等言:神及諸法有。迦毘羅言:從冥初生覺,從覺生我心,從我心生五微塵,從五微塵生五大,從五大生十一根。神為主,常、覺相、處中、常住、不壞不敗、攝受諸法。能知此二十五諦,即得解脫;不知此者,不離生死。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: One should not say that all things are empty and markless, because the self and other such things exist.sūtra Kapila, Ulūka and the rest say that the self and other things exist. Kapila says: from primordial obscurity arises awareness; from awareness arises the I-sense; from the I-sense arise the five subtle elements; from the five subtle elements arise the five great elements; from the five great elements arise the eleven faculties. The self is master: permanent, having awareness for its mark, situated in the midst, everlastingly abiding, indestructible and not to be broken down, taking up and holding all things. Whoever can know these twenty-five principles attains liberation; whoever does not know them is not free of birth and death.

優樓迦言:實有神常,以出入息、視眴、壽命等相故,則知有神。復次以欲恚、苦樂、智慧等所依處故,則知有神。是故神是實有,云何言無?若有而言無,則為惡邪人,惡邪人無解脫。是故不應言一切法空無相。

Ulūka says: there really is a self, and it is permanent. One knows there is a self from such marks as the breath going out and in, the blinking of the eyes, and the span of a life. Furthermore one knows there is a self because it is the place in which desire and hatred, pleasure and pain, knowledge and the rest are lodged. Therefore the self really exists — how can you say it does not? To say of what exists that it does not exist makes a man of evil and wrong view, and a man of evil and wrong view has no liberation. Therefore one should not say that all things are empty and markless.

內曰:若有神而言無,是為惡邪。若無而言無,此有何過?諦觀察之,實無有神。

Insider: If there is a self and one says there is none, that is evil and wrong. But if there is none, and one says there is none, what fault is there in that? Examine the matter closely: there truly is no self.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

Sāṃkhya's twenty-five are worth counting out, because the number is the school's identity and the treatise will keep referring to it. Primordial obscurity (冥初, prakṛti) is one; from it unfold awareness (buddhi), the I-sense (ahaṃkāra), the five subtle elements, the five great elements, and the eleven faculties — twenty-three evolutes, twenty-four in all with their source. The twenty-fifth is the self, which unfolds from nothing and into nothing: it only watches. Liberation, on this account, is not achieved but recognized — you are already the witness, and knowing the inventory correctly is what frees you.

Ulūka's case is of an entirely different kind, and modern readers usually find it the more impressive of the two. It is an argument from inference to the best explanation, and its two lists are almost word for word the standard Nyāya-Vaiśeṣika proof of the self. First, three signs: breathing, blinking, and the duration of a life — processes that maintain themselves, which the school takes to require somebody they are being done by. Second, the psychological argument: desire, aversion, pleasure, pain and knowledge are not free-floating; they occur somewhere, in some possessor, and that possessor is the self. Neither list mentions scripture. He is pointing at what anyone can observe.

The Insider's reply is four sentences long and does not engage any of it, which is deliberate. The Outsider had closed with a threat rather than an argument — deny what exists and you are a man of wrong view, and such men are not liberated — and the reply simply restores the conditional's other branch. If there is a self, denying it is wrong view. If there is not, denying it is accurate. The whole question is which, and calling names does not settle it. Then: 諦觀察之, examine the matter closely. That is the invitation the next three pages take up.

One term to watch throughout this chapter. 神 is Kumārajīva's word for the self — puruṣa in Sāṃkhya, ātman in Vaiśeṣika. It is a Chinese word for spirit or numen, pressed into service because Chinese had no ready equivalent, and it is the same character used elsewhere for gods and for the uncanny. Readers of the Chinese should not import those senses here; in this treatise it means simply the abiding subject that both schools are arguing for.

2. One, or Different?

The Insider's first question is the one that will organize the whole chapter, and it is put to Sāṃkhya first: is this self the same as awareness, or something else? Sāṃkhya answers that they are one — which is the bolder and, on its own terms, the more coherent option. And it walks straight into a trap made of fire.

Chinese Source

外曰:實有神。如僧佉經中說,覺相是神。

內曰:神覺為一耶?為異耶?外曰:神覺一也。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: There really is a self. As the Sāṃkhya text says, what has awareness for its mark is the self.

Insider: Are the self and awareness one, or are they different?

Outsider: The self and awareness are one.

內曰:覺若神相,神無常(修妬路)。若覺是神相者,覺無常故,神應無常。譬如熱是火相,熱無常故,火亦無常。今覺實無常。所以者何?相各異故、屬因緣故、本無今有故、已有還無故。

Insider: If awareness is the self's mark, the self is impermanent.sūtra If awareness is the mark of the self, then since awareness is impermanent, the self must be impermanent — just as heat is the mark of fire, and since heat is impermanent, fire is impermanent too. Now awareness really is impermanent. Why? Because its marks differ one from another; because it belongs to causes and conditions; because it was not there before and is there now; and because, having been there, it comes to be not there again.

外曰:不生故常(修妬路)。生相法無常,神非生相故常。

內曰:若爾覺非神相(修妬路)。覺是無常,汝說神常,神應與覺異。若神覺不異者,覺無常故,神亦應無常。

Outsider: Because it does not arise, it is permanent.sūtra What has the mark of arising is impermanent; the self has no mark of arising, and so is permanent.

Insider: If so, awareness is not the self's mark.sūtra Awareness is impermanent and you say the self is permanent; then the self must be different from awareness. And if the self and awareness are not different, then since awareness is impermanent, the self too must be impermanent.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The fire is doing something precise. A mark is not an ornament; it is what makes a thing recognizable as the thing it is. Heat is fire's mark in that strong sense — take the heat away and there is no fire left to be cold. So whatever is true of the mark is true of what bears it: this fire's heat began and will end, and so this fire began and will end. Now say that awareness is the self's mark in the same strong sense, and the self inherits awareness's career.

The four reasons given for awareness being impermanent are worth separating, because they are four different kinds of evidence. Its marks differ one from another — the awareness of pain and the awareness of pleasure are not the same, so "awareness" is not one unvarying thing. It belongs to causes and conditions — it depends on an object, a faculty, an occasion. It was not there and now is — you can date its onset. Having been, it is not — and its ending. The first is about internal variation, the second about dependence, the third and fourth about the two ends of a duration. Any one of them would do; the four together leave nowhere to stand.

Then comes the pivot on which everything else in this chapter turns. The Outsider protects permanence by saying the self does not arise — and in doing so he has just distinguished the self from awareness, because awareness plainly does. He cannot have both. Either the self and awareness are one, in which case the self is as impermanent as its mark; or the self is permanent, in which case awareness is not its mark and the original claim is withdrawn. Every subsequent move in this part is an attempt to slip between those two horns.

3. Awareness Operates in One Place

Three strokes follow in rapid succession, and all three exploit a single feature of the Sāṃkhya self that the Outsider stated in his opening speech without thinking of it as a liability: the self pervades everywhere. Awareness does not. Two things of different extent cannot be one thing.

Chinese Source

復次若覺是神相,無有是處。所以者何?覺行一處故(修妬路)。若覺是神相者,汝法中神遍一切處,覺亦應一時遍行五道;而覺行一處不能周遍,是故覺非神相。

Ru-Yi Translation

Furthermore, that awareness should be the mark of the self is impossible. Why? Because awareness operates in one place.sūtra If awareness were the mark of the self, then — since in your doctrine the self pervades all places — awareness too would have to operate throughout the five destinies at one and the same time. But awareness operates in one place and cannot extend everywhere, and therefore awareness is not the mark of the self.

復次若爾神與覺等(修妬路)。汝以覺為神相者,神應與覺等,神則不遍。譬如火無熱不熱相,神亦如是,不應有遍不遍相。

Furthermore, if so, the self is coextensive with awareness.sūtra If you take awareness for the mark of the self, then the self must be coextensive with awareness — and so the self does not pervade. Just as fire has no mark of being hot here and not hot there, so the self should have no mark of pervading here and not pervading there.

復次若以為遍,則有覺不覺相(修妬路)。汝欲令神遍,神則二相:覺、不覺相。何以故?覺不遍故。神若墮覺處是則覺,若墮不覺處是則不覺。

Furthermore, if you make it pervade, it will have both the mark of awareness and the mark of unawareness.sūtra You want the self to pervade; then the self has two marks, the mark of being aware and the mark of not being aware. Why? Because awareness does not pervade. Where the self falls in a place of awareness, there it is aware; where it falls in a place of unawareness, there it is unaware.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The three strokes are one dilemma stated from three sides, and it is worth seeing them as a single movement. Awareness is local: it is going on here, about this, now. The self was declared all-pervading. Identify the two and you must either drag awareness out to the size of the self, or shrink the self down to the size of awareness, or accept that the same single thing is aware in some regions and not in others.

The first horn is the reductio: awareness would be operating in all five destinies at once — in the hells, among the animals, among gods and men — which is not what anyone means by their own awareness. The second horn concedes coextension and thereby loses pervasion, which was the doctrine's whole point. The third is the most interesting, and the fire returns to make it: a fire is not hot in one part and cold in another; a thing has its mark throughout or it does not have it. A self that is aware in patches is not one thing with one mark. It is a map with regions.

Notice that none of this depends on any Buddhist premise. Every step is drawn out of the Outsider's own two commitments — awareness is the self's mark, the self pervades — and the contradiction was already sitting inside them before the argument began. This is the method the treatise uses almost exclusively from here on: it does not attack the opponent's conclusions, it lets the opponent's own premises collide.

4. A Power That Never Acts

The Outsider's rescue is a distinction between capacity and exercise. Awareness may not be operating everywhere, but the power of awareness is present everywhere — so the self can pervade without being aware at every point. It is a familiar move and a reasonable one, and the reply to it is one of the sharpest lines in the treatise.

Chinese Source

外曰:力遍故無過(修妬路)。有處覺雖無用,此中亦有覺力,是故無無覺過。

內曰:不然。力有力不異故(修妬路)。若有覺力處是中,覺應有用而無用,是故汝語非也。若如是說覺無用處亦有覺力者,但有是語。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: The power pervades, so there is no fault.sūtra In a place where awareness has no operation, the power of awareness is nonetheless present there too; and so there is no fault of unawareness.

Insider: Not so. Because the power and what has the power are not different.sūtra Wherever the power of awareness is present, awareness ought to be operating — and it is not. So what you say will not do. And if you say in this fashion that the power of awareness is present even where awareness has no operation, that is words and nothing more.

外曰:因緣合故覺力有用(修妬路)。神雖有覺力,要待因緣合故乃能有用。

內曰:墮生相故(修妬路)。若因緣合時覺有用者,是覺屬因緣故,則墮生相。若覺神不異,神亦是生相。

Outsider: The power of awareness operates when causes and conditions combine.sūtra Though the self has the power of awareness, it must wait upon the combining of causes and conditions before it can operate.

Insider: Because it falls under the mark of arising.sūtra If awareness operates when causes and conditions combine, then that awareness belongs to causes and conditions, and so falls under the mark of arising. And if awareness and the self are not different, then the self too has the mark of arising.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

但有是語 — that is words and nothing more. It is the flattest dismissal in the chapter and it deserves unpacking, because the objection it dismisses is one modern readers will feel some sympathy for. Surely a thing can have a capacity it is not currently using: I can speak French while asleep and silent.

The reply is that this defense is not available here, and the reason is the doctrine the Outsider is defending. In Vaiśeṣika's own categories, a power is not a separate item stored up behind its exercise; the treatise puts it as 力有力不異, the power and what has the power are not different. Grant that, and "the power is present but idle" says nothing at all — you have named the awareness and then denied everything by which its presence could be shown. What is the difference between a region where the power of awareness is present but wholly inoperative, and a region where it is absent? None is stateable. So the claim buys pervasion at the price of meaning.

And then the second move closes the other exit. Say instead that the power waits on conditions to become active, and you have conceded that the activity depends on conditions — which is precisely what it is to arise. The self was defined as unarisen; its awareness now arises; and since the two were declared identical, the self arises with it. Each escape from impermanence turns out to be a door back into it.

5. The Lamp, and the Color

The lamp comes back — this treatise cannot leave it alone — but in a new office. In Part 2 it was supposed to act on itself. Here it is supposed to show how something can be revealed without being produced: the lamp does not make the pot, it only lets you see it. If conditions are like that, they can activate awareness without producing it, and the mark of arising is avoided.

Chinese Source

外曰:如燈(修妬路)。譬如燈能照物、不能作物。因緣亦如是,能令覺有用,不能生覺。

內曰:不然。燈雖不照瓶等,而瓶等可得亦可持用。若因緣不合時,覺不可得,神亦不能覺苦樂,是故汝喻非也。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: As with a lamp.sūtra A lamp can light a thing but cannot make the thing. Causes and conditions are just so: they can set awareness to work, but cannot produce awareness.

Insider: Not so. Though the lamp does not light the pot and the rest, the pot is still to be had, and can still be picked up and used. But when causes and conditions have not combined, awareness is not to be had, and the self cannot be aware of pleasure or pain either. So your simile does not hold.

外曰:如色(修妬路)。譬如色,雖先有燈,不照則不了。如是覺雖先有,因緣未合故亦不了。

Outsider: As with color.sūtra Color, though it is there beforehand, is not made out unless a lamp lights it. Just so awareness: though it is there beforehand, it is not made out, because the causes and conditions have not yet combined.

內曰:不然。自相不了故(修妬路)。若未有照,人雖不了,色相自了。汝覺相自不了,是故汝喻非也。復次以無相故,色相不以人知故為色相,是故若不見時常有色。汝知是神相,不應以無知處為知。無知處為知,是事不然,汝法中知覺一義。

Insider: Not so. Because its own mark is not made out.sūtra Before there is any lighting, though a person does not make it out, the mark of color is made out in itself. But your mark of awareness is not made out in itself, and so your simile does not hold. Furthermore, since it has no mark: the mark of color is not the mark of color by virtue of somebody's knowing it, and therefore there is color at all times, even when it is not seen. But you make knowing the mark of the self — and you ought not to turn a place where there is no knowing into knowing. That a place where there is no knowing should be knowing is not so; and in your doctrine knowing and awareness are one and the same.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The first reply is a test anyone can run, and it is decisive. An unlit pot in a dark room is still a pot: reach out and you will find it, lift it, drink from it. Its being does not wait on the lamp; only your seeing does. Now ask the same of awareness with the conditions withdrawn. Not merely unnoticed — absent. There is nothing there to be reached for in the dark, and the self is not quietly experiencing pleasure and pain unobserved. The analogy fails at the one joint it needed to hold: a lamp reveals what stands independent of it, and conditions do not.

The color reply is finer and repays slow reading. The Outsider has retreated from "awareness exists but is inactive" to "awareness exists but is undetected," which is a better position. The answer distinguishes two things that are easy to run together: being manifest to someone, and having a nature of one's own. Color has the second whether or not it has the first — 色相自了, the mark of color is made out in itself, and so the color is there in the dark, unseen. But awareness has no such standing. Its whole nature is to be a manifesting; an unmanifest awareness is not an awareness lying in the dark, it is nothing.

The last sentence delivers the point without decoration: you ought not to turn a place where there is no knowing into knowing. Because knowing and awareness are one term in this school, a self with awareness for its mark cannot be present where nothing is being known. The Outsider has been trying to give his self an existence that persists through the gaps, and the treatise keeps returning him to the fact that on his own definition there are no gaps it could persist through.

6. The Man Who Has an Ox

Sāṃkhya's account has failed because it made the self and awareness one. Vaiśeṣika now steps in with the other option, and it looks much safer. Knowledge is other than the self; the self merely has it. The self is not knowledge any more than a man is an ox — he simply owns one, and is called an ox-owner accordingly.

Chinese Source

外曰:優樓迦弟子誦衛世師經言,知與神異,是故神不墮無常中,亦不無知。何以故?神知合故。如有牛(修妬路)。譬如人與牛合,故人名有牛。如是神情意塵合故,神有知生。以神合知故,神名有知。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: Ulūka's disciples, reciting the Vaiśeṣika text, say that knowledge is other than the self. Therefore the self does not fall into impermanence, and neither is it without knowledge. Why? Because the self is conjoined with knowledge. As with the man who has an ox.sūtra A man conjoined with an ox is on that account called "one who has an ox." Just so, because the self is conjoined with the faculties, the mind and the sense-objects, knowledge arises in the self; and because the self is conjoined with knowledge, the self is called one who has knowledge.

內曰:牛相牛中住,非有牛中(修妬路)。牛相牛中住,不在有牛中。是故雖人牛合有牛不作牛,但牛為牛。如是雖神知合,知相知中住,神不為知。汝言神情意塵合故知生,是知知色塵等,是故但知能知非神知。譬如火能燒,非有火人燒。

Insider: The mark of an ox abides in the ox, not in the one who has the ox.sūtra The mark of an ox abides in the ox and is not in the one who has it. So although the man and the ox are conjoined, the one who has the ox does not become an ox; only the ox is an ox. Just so, although the self and knowledge are conjoined, the mark of knowing abides in knowledge, and the self does not become a knower. You say that because the self, the faculties, the mind and the objects are conjoined, knowledge arises — and it is this knowledge that knows color and the other objects. Therefore it is knowledge alone that knows, and not the self. It is like fire, which can burn; it is not the man who has the fire that burns.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

This is the salt argument from Part 2 returning as the chapter's main weapon, and the phrasing is deliberately identical: 鹽相鹽中住 there, 牛相牛中住 here. A mark stays where it lives. Combination does not move it.

The Outsider's simile is turned around without a word being added to it. He offered the ox-owner to show how the self can be called a knower without being knowledge. But look at what the simile actually establishes: the ox-owner is emphatically not an ox. Ownership is precisely the relation that leaves the two things distinct — that is what makes it a good picture of "conjoined but different," and that is what destroys it. If the self relates to knowledge as a man to his ox, then the self is exactly as much a knower as a cattleman is a cow.

The fire seals it, and the choice of image is not casual. Fire burns; the man carrying a torch does not burn, and would be alarmed to be told he did. The burning belongs to the fire, wholly, and no amount of holding transfers it. So too: the knowing belongs to the knowledge. And the Outsider has himself supplied the mechanism — faculties, mind and object combine, and knowledge arises. Every element needed for knowing has been accounted for before the self is mentioned. It is standing next to the process holding the lead-rope.

7. Knowledge Just Is the Knower

The Outsider's reply is to change the relation from ownership to use. A man does not become a lamp by using one, and yet without the lamp he does not see. Let the self stand to knowledge as a man to his lamp, and the self can be a genuine knower without being knowledge itself.

Chinese Source

外曰:能用法故(修妬路)。人雖有見相,用燈則見、離燈則不見。神雖有能知,用知則知、離知則不知。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: Because it is a thing that can be used.sūtra Though a man has the mark of seeing, he sees when he uses a lamp and does not see apart from the lamp. Just so, though the self has the capacity to know, it knows when it uses knowledge and does not know apart from knowledge.

內曰:不然。知即能知故(修妬路)。以情意塵合故知生,是知能知色等諸塵,是故知即能知,非是所用。若知即能知,神復何用?燈喻非也。何以故?燈不知色等故(修妬路)。燈雖先有,不能知色等,非知法故,是故但知能知色。若不能知,不名為知。是故縱有能知,彼能何用?

Insider: Not so. Because knowledge just is the knower.sūtra It is by the conjunction of the faculties, the mind and the objects that knowledge arises, and this knowledge is what knows color and the other objects. Therefore knowledge just is the knower, and is not a thing used. And if knowledge just is the knower, what further use is the self? Your lamp simile does not hold. Why? Because a lamp does not know colors and the rest.sūtra Though the lamp is there beforehand, it cannot know colors and the rest, since it is not a knowing thing; and so it is knowledge alone that can know color. Whatever cannot know is not called knowledge. Therefore, even granting something with the capacity to know, what use is that capacity?

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The lamp simile has an exact structural flaw and the reply names it in one line: 燈不知色等故, a lamp does not know colors. In the man-and-lamp case there are genuinely two parties with two different jobs. The lamp illuminates and cannot see; the man sees and cannot illuminate. Neither could be dropped, because neither does the other's work.

Transpose that to self and knowledge and the second party vanishes. Knowledge does not merely illuminate for someone else's benefit — knowing is exactly what it does, and it is the only thing in the arrangement that does it. So the self is not in the position of the man with the lamp. It is in the position of a second man standing behind the first, who is also said to be doing the seeing.

Hence the question that closes the section, and it is asked twice for emphasis: 神復何用 — what further use is the self? This is the form the whole chapter's argument finally takes, and it is worth noticing that it is not a proof of non-existence. It is a demand for employment. The Outsider's own analysis assembles knowing out of faculties, mind and object, and the knowing is complete before the self is invoked. Whatever else may be said for such a self, there is no work left over for it to do.

8. The Horse, and a Position of Defeat

The Outsider tries a third relation. Not ownership, not use, but the ordinary way we name a person by the body they are in: the self joined to a horse's body is called a horse, though it is not the body. Why should the self joined to knowledge not be called a knower on the same terms?

Chinese Source

外曰:馬身合故神為馬(修妬路)。譬如神與馬身合故,神名為馬。神雖異身,亦名神為馬。如是神知合故,神名為知。

內曰。不然。身中神非馬(修妬路)。馬身即馬也。汝謂身與神異,則神與馬異,云何以神為馬?是故此喻非也。以神喻神,則墮負處。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: Conjoined with a horse's body, the self is a horse.sūtra Because the self is conjoined with a horse's body, the self is called a horse; and though the self is other than the body, still the self is called a horse. Just so, because the self is conjoined with knowledge, the self is called a knower.

Insider: Not so. The self within the body is not a horse.sūtra A horse's body just is the horse. You hold that the body is other than the self; then the self is other than the horse — so how do you make the self a horse? This simile therefore does not hold. And to illustrate the self by means of the self is to fall into a position of defeat.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

Two faults, and the second is more serious than the first.

The first is internal collapse. What makes something a horse? Its body — 馬身即馬也, a horse's body just is the horse. But the Outsider has insisted the self is other than the body; so the self is other than the horse; so calling it a horse is exactly the thing his own premise forbids. The example is self-cancelling before it can illustrate anything.

The second is a technical charge and worth flagging carefully: 墮負處, falling into a position of defeat. This renders nigrahasthāna, a formal term from the Indian science of debate — the recognized list of ways a disputant automatically loses, independent of whether his thesis is true. Offering an illustration that contains the very thing in dispute is one of them. The self was what needed to be shown; the example presupposes a self already joined to a horse's body. Nothing has been illustrated, and by the rules of the debate hall the round is forfeit.

That the treatise reaches for this vocabulary is a reminder of what kind of book it is. Not a meditation manual and not a private treatise, but a text for people who would face trained opponents in public and needed to know both the arguments and the rules under which arguments are scored. It is the same practical register as the 外曰/內曰 labels themselves.

9. Black Cloth, and a Walking Staff

Two more attempts, both trying to find some conjunction in which a thing takes its name from what it is joined to. And the first of them walks into the same trap the horse-sacrifice walked into in Part 3: it is refuted out of the opponent's own textbook.

Chinese Source

外曰:如黑疊(修妬路)。譬如黑疊,黑雖異疊,疊與黑合故名為黑疊。如是知雖異神,神與知合故神名為知。

Ru-Yi Translation

Outsider: As with black cloth.sūtra In black cloth, though the black is other than the cloth, it is because the cloth is conjoined with the black that it is called black cloth. Just so, though knowledge is other than the self, it is because the self is conjoined with knowledge that the self is called a knower.

內曰:若爾無神(修妬路)。若神與知合,故神名為知,神應非神。何以故?我先說知即是能知,若知不名神,神亦不名能知。若他合故以他為名者,知與神合,何不名知為神?又如先說黑疊喻者,自違汝經。汝經黑是求那,疊是陀羅驃。陀羅驃不作求那,求那不作陀羅驃。

Insider: If so, there is no self.sūtra If the self is called a knower because it is conjoined with knowledge, then the self must not be a self. Why? I said before that knowledge just is the knower; and if knowledge is not called the self, neither is the self called the knower. Besides, if a thing takes its name from another because it is conjoined with that other, then since knowledge is conjoined with the self, why is knowledge not called the self? Moreover the black-cloth simile you have just offered contradicts your own text. In your text, black is a quality and cloth is a substance; and a substance does not become a quality, nor a quality a substance.

外曰:如有杖(修妬路)。譬如人與杖合,故人名有杖,不但名杖。杖雖與人合,杖不名有人,亦不名人。如是神與知合,故神名能知,不但名知,亦非是知與神合故,知名為神。

Outsider: As with the man who has a staff.sūtra Because a man is conjoined with a staff, the man is called "one who has a staff," and not simply "a staff." And though the staff is conjoined with the man, the staff is not called "one who has a man," nor is it called a man. Just so, because the self is conjoined with knowledge, the self is called a knower and not simply knowledge; nor, because knowledge is conjoined with the self, is knowledge called the self.

內曰:不然。有杖非杖(修妬路)。雖杖與有杖合,有杖不為杖。如是知相知中非神中,是故神非能知。

Insider: Not so. The one who has the staff is not the staff.sūtra Though the staff and the one who has the staff are conjoined, the one who has the staff does not become the staff. Just so, the mark of knowing is in knowledge and not in the self — and therefore the self is not a knower.

Reading note — Ru-Yi

The black-cloth reply has three parts and each closes a different exit. The first is the point already established: knowledge is what knows, so calling the self a knower on the strength of a conjunction names it after something it is not doing. The second is the symmetry objection, and it is lethal to the whole strategy — if conjunction confers names, it must confer them both ways, and knowledge conjoined with the self ought equally to be called the self. The Outsider wants a one-directional naming and has given no reason for the direction.

The third stroke is the one to savor. Vaiśeṣika's six categories were listed by the Outsider himself back in Part 1, and the two that matter here are 陀羅驃 (dravya, substance) and 求那 (guṇa, quality). Black is a quality; cloth is a substance; and it is a foundational rule of his own system that the two categories do not convert into each other. So the black-cloth example, chosen to show a thing becoming what it is joined to, comes from a school whose whole architecture is built to prevent exactly that. As with the Sāṃkhya citation against the horse sacrifice, the Outsider is beaten with a book from his own shelf.

The staff, finally, is the Outsider recognizing the symmetry problem and trying to solve it. He is quite right that our language is asymmetrical here: a man with a staff is a staff-holder, and the staff is not a man-holder. But the asymmetry is in the naming, not in the transfer of properties, and the reply needs only one sentence to say so. The one who has the staff is not the staff. The Outsider has now produced four relations — owning, using, inhabiting, bearing — and every one of them has turned out to be a relation between two things that stay distinct. Which is what he wanted, and is exactly why none of them can make his self a knower.

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Part Four Complete

This closes Part Four: the two great rival accounts of the self stated at full length and then dismantled in turn. Sāṃkhya's self, whose mark is awareness, cannot survive its own mark's impermanence, cannot be both pervasive and locally aware, and cannot be rescued by a power that never acts or by conditions that merely reveal. Vaiśeṣika's self, merely conjoined with a knowledge that is other than it, cannot get the knowing to cross over: the ox's mark stays in the ox, the burning stays in the fire, the staff-holder is not the staff.

Part Five takes up the arguments the Outsider has been holding in reserve — the ones from evidence rather than from definition. If the self is not established by analysis, perhaps it is established by inference, as fire is inferred from smoke; or by the plain fact that somebody feels the knife. That last is the strongest thing he has, and it produces the most unsettling exchange in the chapter: if the blade cuts the body and the self feels it, ask what else the blade is reaching.