The Self Inferred, and the Self That Feels
Refuting the Self, continued破神品第二
Argument from definition having failed, the Outsider changes tactics twice. First he argues from inference: nobody sees the sun travel, yet everyone knows it travelled, and a self may be known the same way. When that is taken from him he stops arguing altogether and points at something nobody can deny — a dead body feels nothing, a living one feels the knife, and somebody is doing the feeling. It is the strongest thing he has said, and the reply is a single line that turns the knife around: if the blade reaches the self, then ask what the blade is doing to it.
1. The Crystal That Takes Every Color
Sāṃkhya comes back, having watched Vaiśeṣika fail, and doubles down on its original position: awareness just is the self's mark, which is precisely why there are never any gaps. The Insider's counter is new — not about permanence this time, but about number. Awareness comes in kinds. If it is the self's mark, the self comes in kinds too.
外曰:僧佉人復言,若知與神異,有如上過。我經中無如是過。所以者何?覺即神相故。我以覺相為神,是故常覺無不覺。
內曰:雖已先破,今當更說。若覺相神不一(修妬路)。覺有種種苦樂覺等,若覺是神相,神應種種。
Outsider: The Sāṃkhya adherents say further: if knowledge is other than the self, the faults set out above do follow. But in our text there are no such faults. Why? Because awareness just is the mark of the self. We take what has awareness for its mark to be the self, and therefore there is awareness always and no unawareness at all.
Insider: Though this has been refuted already, let it be said again. If awareness is the self's mark, the self is not one.sūtra Awareness is of many kinds — the awareness of pain, the awareness of pleasure, and the rest. If awareness is the mark of the self, then the self must be of many kinds.
外曰:不然。一為種種相,如頗梨(修妬路)。如一頗梨珠隨色而變,或青黃赤白等。如是一覺隨塵別異,或覺苦或覺樂等。覺雖種種相,實是一覺。
Outsider: Not so. One thing takes on many marks, as a crystal does.sūtra A single crystal jewel changes according to the color beside it, becoming blue, yellow, red, white and so on. Just so, a single awareness differs according to its object, being now an awareness of pain, now an awareness of pleasure, and so on. Though awareness has many marks, it is in truth one awareness.
內曰:若爾罪福一相(修妬路)。若益他覺是名福,若損他覺是名罪,一切慧人心信是法。若益他覺、損他覺是一者,應罪福一相,如施盜等亦應一。復次如珠先有,隨色而變。然覺共緣生,是故汝喻非也。復次珠新新生滅故,相則不一。汝言珠一者,是亦非也。
Insider: If so, offense and merit have one mark.sūtra An awareness that benefits another is called merit, and an awareness that harms another is called offense; every wise person believes this in their heart. If the awareness that benefits and the awareness that harms are one, then offense and merit must have one mark, and giving and stealing and the rest must likewise be one. Furthermore, the jewel exists beforehand and then changes according to the color beside it; but awareness arises together with its object, and so your simile does not hold. Furthermore, since the jewel arises and ceases anew from moment to moment, its mark is not one; so your saying that the jewel is one is wrong as well.
The crystal is a genuinely elegant image and it is a favorite of Indian philosophy on all sides: a clear stone laid on red cloth looks red, on blue cloth blue, and yet it is one stone throughout, unchanged in itself. It is meant to show how one unvarying awareness can appear as an indefinite variety of experiences without ever becoming many.
The first reply lets it stand and then follows the consequence into ethics, which is where the Outsider has no defenses. If the awareness that helps and the awareness that harms are strictly one thing wearing two appearances, then merit and offense have a single mark, and giving and stealing come to the same. This is not a debating trick. It is a demand that the metaphysics be compatible with the moral facts, and the appeal is to 一切慧人心信是法 — what every wise person already believes. Chapter One spent its whole length establishing that moral ground, and here it is being cashed in.
Then two disanalogies, and the second is the more interesting. The crystal is there first and the color arrives afterward, so there is a persisting stone for the colors to happen to; but awareness 共緣生, arises together with its object — there is no awareness sitting in the room waiting for something to be aware of. And finally the treatise turns the image inside out with a Buddhist premise it does not bother to defend: the jewel itself arises and perishes moment by moment, so even the stone is not one thing. The Outsider chose the most stable object he could think of, and is told that his example of permanence is a flicker.
2. The Potter Who Makes Many Things
A better version of the same defense. Forget appearances: a single craftsman genuinely produces a whole shelf of different vessels, and nobody concludes there must be many potters. One agent, many works.
外曰:不然。果雖多,作者一,如陶師(修妬路)。如一陶師作瓶瓫等,非作者一故果便一也。如是一覺能作損益等業。
內曰:陶師無別異(修妬路)。譬如陶師身一無異相,而與瓶瓫等異。然益他覺、損他覺實有異相。又損益等與覺不異,是故汝喻非也。
Outsider: Not so. Though the products are many, the maker is one, as with a potter.sūtra A single potter makes pots and jars and the rest; it does not follow from the maker being one that the products are one. Just so, a single awareness can perform the acts of harming and of benefiting and the rest.
Insider: The potter has no differences within himself.sūtra The potter's body is one and bears no differing marks, while it is other than the pots and jars. But the awareness that benefits and the awareness that harms really do bear differing marks. Moreover, the harming and the benefiting are not other than the awareness itself — and so your simile does not hold.
The refutation is exact and takes one sentence: in the potter's case the variety is in the pots, and the potter stands outside it, unchanged and separate from everything he makes. That separation is what lets one maker have many works.
Now look for the same separation in the awareness case and it is not there. The harming and the benefiting are not products set down on a shelf beside the awareness; 損益等與覺不異, they are not other than the awareness. A cruel thought is not something a neutral awareness manufactured; it is what that awareness is, on that occasion. So the variety has nowhere to go but into the thing itself, and the potter analogy needed it to go somewhere else.
It is worth noticing how consistently this chapter refutes similes rather than propositions. The Outsider keeps offering an ordinary case that has the shape he needs; the Insider keeps agreeing that the ordinary case is exactly as described, and then showing that the joint on which it turns is missing from the case it was brought in to illuminate. The pattern is the same for the ox, the lamp, the crystal, and now the potter.
3. As Fire Is Known from Smoke
The Outsider now shifts ground entirely, and the shift is a considerable improvement. He stops trying to say what the self is and argues instead about how it is known. Plenty of real things are never perceived directly and are known by their signs, and he gives two textbook cases before applying the method.
外曰:實有神,比知相故(修妬路)。有物雖不可現知,以比相故知。如見人先去然後到彼,日月東出西沒雖不見去,以到彼故知去。如是見諸求那依陀羅驃,以比知相故知有神。神知合故,神名能知。
Outsider: There really is a self, because it is known by an inferential mark.sūtra There are things which cannot be known directly and are yet known by an inferential mark. We see a man first set out and afterward arrive there; and though we do not see the sun and moon travelling as they rise in the east and set in the west, we know from their arriving there that they travelled. Just so, seeing that the qualities depend upon a substance, we know by an inferential mark that there is a self. And because the self is conjoined with knowledge, the self is called a knower.
內曰:是事先已破,今當更說。不知非神(修妬路)。汝法神遍廣大而知少。若神知者,有處有時不知,是則非神。有處名身外,有時名身內,睡眠悶等是時不知。若神知相有處有時不知,是則非神。何以故?無知相故。汝以知相有神者,空無實也。
Insider: This has been refuted already, but let it be said again. What does not know is not the self.sūtra In your doctrine the self is pervasive and vast, while the knowing is small. If the self is a knower, then wherever and whenever it does not know, there it is not the self. "Wherever" means outside the body; "whenever" means within the body, at times of sleep and fainting and the like, when there is no knowing. If the self has knowing for its mark and yet in some places and at some times does not know, then in those it is not the self. Why? Because there it has no mark of knowing. Your positing a self on the strength of the mark of knowing is therefore empty and without substance.
The two examples are well chosen and the second is the better one. Nobody has ever watched the sun cross the sky in the sense of seeing it in transit; what we see is a position in the morning and a different position at evening, and the travelling is supplied by inference. Grant that this is legitimate — and everyone does — and the door is open for any well-formed inference to an unobservable.
The inference itself is stated in Vaiśeṣika's own vocabulary and is worth unpacking: 見諸求那依陀羅驃, we see that the guṇas depend on a dravya — that qualities do not float free but inhere in substances. Knowledge, desire and pain are qualities. Therefore there is a substance they inhere in, and that substance is the self. It is a clean argument, and its premise is one most people hold without ever examining it.
The reply does not attack inference. It attacks this inference's fit with its own conclusion, using the gaps again — the same wedge as in Part 4 but sharpened, because now the two kinds of gap are named separately and both are ordinary. There is the spatial gap: your self is vast and the knowing is a small bright patch, so most of the self is not knowing anything. And there is the temporal gap, which is the one that stings — 睡眠悶, sleep and fainting. Every night, on this account, a person's self loses the only mark by which it was identified. A criterion that fails for a third of every life is not a criterion.
4. Fire Without Smoke, and the Hair of a Tortoise
The Outsider has an answer ready, and it comes straight out of the inference textbook he has just been quoting. Smoke proves fire; but a bed of charcoal has fire without smoke. The absence of the sign does not prove the absence of the thing.
外曰:行無故知無,如煙(修妬路)。如煙是火相,炭時無煙,是時雖無煙而有火。如是知雖神相,若有知、若無知,神應常有。
Outsider: Where the activity is absent the knowing is absent, as with smoke.sūtra Smoke is the mark of fire; at the charcoal stage there is no smoke, and though there is no smoke at that time there is still fire. Just so, though knowing is the mark of the self, whether there is knowing or no knowing the self must be there always.
內曰:不然。神能知故(修妬路)。若不知時欲令有神者,神則不能知,亦無知相。所以者何?汝神無知時亦有神故。復次若無煙時,現見有火知有火。神若有知、若無知,無能見者,是故汝喻非也。
Insider: Not so. Because the self is what knows.sūtra If you would have a self present at a time when it is not knowing, then that self is not able to know and has no mark of knowing — for on your account the self is present even when there is no knowing. Furthermore, when there is no smoke one sees the fire directly and thereby knows there is fire. But whether there is knowing or no knowing, there is no one who can see the self; and so your simile does not hold.
復次汝說見共相比知故有神,此亦非也。所以者何?見去者去法到彼故(修妬路)。若離去者無去法,離去法無去者到彼,如是見去者曰到彼,必知有去法。若離神無知,是事不然,是故不應以知故知有神。不可見龜而有毛想,不可見石女而有兒想,如是不應見知便有神想。
Furthermore, your claim that a self is known by inference from a common mark is also wrong. Why? Because one sees the goer, and the going, and the arriving there.sūtra Apart from a goer there is no going, and apart from going no goer arrives there; and so, seeing a goer of whom it is said that he arrives there, one necessarily knows that there is a going. But that apart from a self there is no knowing — this is not so, and therefore one should not infer a self from knowing. One cannot see a tortoise and thereupon form the notion of its hair; one cannot see a barren woman and thereupon form the notion of her son. Just so, one should not see knowing and thereupon form the notion of a self.
The charcoal is answered by pointing at what makes the charcoal case work, and it is embarrassingly simple: you can see the fire. Smokeless fire is still fire you can look at, warm your hands on, and be burned by. The inference from smoke is a convenience for cases where the fire is out of sight, not the only access anyone has to fire. Withdraw the sign and direct perception remains. Withdraw the knowing and, on the Outsider's own account, nothing whatever remains by which the self could be reached. His example has a fallback; his thesis has none.
The second reply is the deeper one and it goes to the structure of inference itself. What licenses inferring the going from the arrival is that goers and goings have been observed together, repeatedly, by people who have watched other people walk. The mark and the thing marked are both independently available, and the inference rides on their known connection. Now ask when anyone has observed a knowing together with a self, so as to establish the connection that the inference requires. Never — because the self is by definition what is never observed. The inference wants to establish its own premise.
Then the two stock non-entities, which are not rhetorical flourishes but a precise diagnosis. Tortoise hair and a barren woman's son are the standard Indian examples of things that have names and no referents. The point is that the reasoning is unfalsifiable in exactly their manner: you may attach a term to anything at all and then treat the term's grammatical respectability as evidence. Seeing knowing and inferring a self is seeing a tortoise and inferring its hair.
One textual note. The received text reads 如是見去者曰到彼, where 曰 ("says") sits oddly; a number of readers take it as a graphic error for 已 ("having"), which would give "seeing a goer having arrived there." The sense is not materially affected either way, and we translate the received character rather than emend it silently.
5. The Hand That Is Not Always Grasping
One more attempt to save the gaps, and this one is the most ordinary and the most appealing. A hand is a hand while it rests open on the table. Nobody thinks it stops being a hand between grips.
外曰:如手取(修妬路)。如手有時取、有時不取,不可以不取時不名為手,手常名手。神亦如是,有時知、有時不知,不可以不知時不名為神,神常名神。
內曰:取非手相(修妬路)。取是手業非手相。何以故?不以取故知為手。汝以知即神相,此喻非也。
Outsider: As with a hand that grasps.sūtra A hand sometimes grasps and sometimes does not, and one may not refuse it the name of hand at the times when it is not grasping: a hand is always called a hand. The self is just so — sometimes it knows and sometimes it does not, and one may not refuse it the name of self at the times when it does not know. The self is always called the self.
Insider: Grasping is not the hand's mark.sūtra Grasping is the hand's act, not the hand's mark. Why? Because it is not by grasping that one recognizes a hand. But you make knowing the very mark of the self, and so this simile does not hold.
The distinction between an act and a mark is small, precise, and completely decisive, and it is the same distinction the treatise used against the finger in Chapter Five and will use again. A mark is what a thing is known by. An act is something it does.
You recognize a hand by its shape — five fingers, a palm, at the end of an arm — and that is why an idle hand is still obviously a hand: its mark is fully present while it does nothing at all. Grasping is merely one thing hands sometimes do, and its absence takes nothing away. So the analogy would work beautifully if the Outsider had said that knowing is something the self does. But he did not. He said knowing is the self's mark, its identifying character, the thing by which a self is a self. And a mark, unlike an act, cannot be intermittently absent while the thing remains.
This is where the Outsider has been trapped since the beginning of the chapter, and it is worth stating plainly, because it explains the whole shape of Chapter Two. To make the self knowable he had to give it a mark. The only mark available was knowing. But knowing comes and goes, while the self was supposed to be permanent and pervasive. Every move since has been an attempt to have a mark that does not behave like one.
6. Somebody Feels the Knife
Here the Outsider abandons theory. He does not offer a simile or an inference; he points at the difference between a living body and a corpse, and asks what it consists in. It is the most forceful thing said in this chapter by either side.
外曰:定有神,覺苦樂故(修妬路)。若無覺者則無覺,身獨不能覺苦樂。何以故?死人有身,不能覺苦樂。如是知有身者能覺苦樂,此則為神,是故定有神。
內曰:若惱亦斷(修妬路)。如刀害身,是時生惱。若刀害神,神亦有惱者,神亦應斷。
Outsider: There certainly is a self, because pleasure and pain are felt.sūtra If there were no one who is aware, there would be no awareness; and the body by itself cannot feel pleasure and pain. Why? A dead man has a body and cannot feel pleasure or pain. So one knows that what possesses the body is what feels pleasure and pain — and this is the self. Therefore there certainly is a self.
Insider: If it is hurt, it is also cut.sūtra When a blade wounds the body, distress arises at that moment. If the blade wounds the self, and the self likewise has distress, then the self too must be cut through.
Take the objection seriously, because it deserves it. Two bodies lie side by side; the same knife is drawn across each; one screams and one does not. Whatever the difference is, it is not in the flesh, which is identical in both. So there is something present in the one and absent from the other, and that something is what feels. This is not a scholastic construction. It is the observation from which every doctrine of a soul has ever started.
The reply is one clause long and it accepts the Outsider's picture entirely in order to break it. He wants a self that genuinely receives the wound — not a spectator, but the actual sufferer, since a self that merely watched would not explain the screaming. Very well: whatever the blade reaches, the blade cuts. If the pain arrives at the self, the blade has arrived at the self; and a thing a blade arrives at is a thing a blade can sever. The Outsider needs the self to be close enough to be hurt and far enough not to be damaged, and there is no such distance.
Notice what has not been said. The treatise does not deny that the living body feels and the corpse does not. It never denies the phenomena; it denies only the item posited to explain them. The difference between the two bodies is real; the inference to a permanent, untouchable sufferer standing behind the wound is what fails. This is the same restraint as in Part 2, where spells and stars were conceded and only the inference refused.
7. Untouchable as Space, and the Burning House
The Outsider's escape from the knife is to make the self intangible, and he has a fine image for it: burn a house down and the space inside it is unharmed. But intangibility turns out to cost more than he expected — a self that cannot be touched cannot move a body either — and the chapter closes with two further images, a blind man carrying a lame one, and a householder watching his house burn.
外曰:不然。無觸故如空(修妬路)。神無觸故不可斷。如燒舍時,內空無觸故不可燒,但有熱。如是斷身時,內神無觸故不可斷,但有惱。
內曰:若爾無去(修妬路)。若神無觸,身不應到餘處。何以故?去法從思惟生、從身動生。身無思惟,非覺法故。神無動力,非身法故。如是身不應到餘處。
Outsider: Not so. Because it is untouchable, like space.sūtra The self cannot be cut, since it is untouchable. When a house burns, the space within cannot burn, being untouchable; there is only heat. Just so, when the body is cut through, the self within cannot be cut, being untouchable; there is only distress.
Insider: If so, there is no going.sūtra If the self is untouchable, the body should never get to another place. Why? Going arises from thought and from the body's movement. The body has no thought, not being a thing that is aware; and the self has no power of movement, not being a bodily thing. So the body should never get to another place at all.
外曰:如盲跛(修妬路)。譬如盲跛相假能去。如是神有思惟、身有動力,和合而去。
內曰:異相故(修妬路)。如盲跛,二觸二思惟故法應能去。身神無二事故不應去,是故無去法。若不爾,有如上斷過。復次汝謂空熱,此事不然。何以故?空無觸故,微熱遍空。身觸覺熱,非空熱也,但假言空熱。
Outsider: As with the blind man and the lame man.sūtra A blind man and a lame man, each borrowing from the other, are able to travel. Just so, the self has thought and the body has the power of movement, and combining, they go.
Insider: Because their marks differ.sūtra In the case of the blind man and the lame, there are two touchable bodies and two thinking minds, and so of course they can travel. But body and self have no such pair of things, and so cannot go — and therefore there is no going. Were it otherwise, the fault of being cut through, set out above, would follow. Furthermore, your claim that the space is hot is not so. Why? Because space is untouchable. A faint heat pervades the space, and it is the body's touch that feels that heat. It is not the space that is hot; one merely speaks loosely of the space being hot.
外曰:如舍主惱(修妬路)。如燒舍時,舍主惱而不燒。如是身斷時,神但惱而不斷。
內曰:不然。無常故燒(修妬路)。舍燒時,草木等無常故,亦燒亦熱。空常故,不燒不熱。如是身無常故,亦惱亦斷。神常故,不惱不斷。復次舍主遠火故不應燒。汝經言神遍滿故,亦應斷壞。
Outsider: As with the householder's distress.sūtra When a house burns, the householder is distressed but is not burned. Just so, when the body is cut through, the self is merely distressed and is not cut.
Insider: Not so. It burns because it is impermanent.sūtra When a house burns, the thatch and timber, being impermanent, both burn and grow hot; the space, being permanent, neither burns nor grows hot. Just so the body, being impermanent, is both distressed and cut through, while the self, being permanent, is neither distressed nor cut. Furthermore, the householder is not burned because he is far from the fire — but your text says the self is everywhere present and full, and so it too must be cut and destroyed.
Four moves, and they interlock more tightly than they first appear.
The Outsider buys immunity from the knife with intangibility, and the bill arrives immediately: an untouchable thing cannot push. Walking needs both an intention and a shove, and the Outsider's own dualism has put them in different substances — the body cannot think, the self cannot move. Between them they should not be able to cross a room. This is the mind-body interaction problem stated in four clauses, and it is the standard price of making the self immaterial enough to survive injury.
The blind man and the lame man is a well-known image and a good answer, and the refutation of it is exact: that arrangement works because there are two complete people, each with a body and a mind. The lame man sees and also has a mouth to give directions with; the blind man walks and also has ears to hear them with. There are two touchable bodies and two thinking minds. Self and body are not two complete parties — each is missing precisely what the other has, which is why the pairing was proposed, and which is why the pairing cannot work.
The correction about hot space is small and beautifully observed. When you say the air in a burning house is hot, what is actually happening is that a diffuse heat fills the room and your skin registers it. Space itself, being untouchable by definition, has no temperature. So the Outsider's own analogy has quietly reintroduced a toucher — and if his self is as untouchable as space, it is as incapable of distress as space is of warmth.
Then the householder, and the last stroke of the chapter's middle third. Grant the picture: the man stands in the street, grieving and unburned. But why is he unburned? 舍主遠火故 — because he is far from the fire. Distance is the whole mechanism. And this Outsider has spent the chapter insisting his self is 遍滿, everywhere present and full, with no outside to stand in. His own doctrine puts him in the building.
Part Five Complete
This closes Part Five: the crystal that seems to stay one under every color, until merit and offense turn out to be the same color; the potter whose variety is safely outside him and awareness whose variety is not; the self inferred as fire is inferred from smoke, and the inference broken on the fact that no one has ever observed the two terms together; the hand that is a hand while it rests, and the difference between an act and a mark; the knife that must cut whatever it can hurt; and a self made untouchable to escape the knife, which thereby loses the power to walk across a room, and which — being everywhere — cannot stand outside the burning house it wants to grieve for.
Part Six finishes the chapter with the Outsider's last line of defense: not what the self is, and not how it is known, but what it does. It sees by means of the eye, it remembers, it carries habits from a former life into the crying of a newborn, and it connects what the left eye saw with what the right eye recognizes. Each of these is a job that seems to need an owner — and each answer takes the job away and gives it to something already present.